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It was not, I've havent had the e2 sensitive assay yet and all the panels I average between 25-35. Doc uses both and wasn't concerned. E2 sensitive definitely for the next round with armidex.

Therapy Update Sent my labs to an HRT specialist. He was confident that my previous Clomid stim test was a good sign and we should continue. 25mg Clomid ED plus 25mg of DHEA (DHEA was mid range). Results TT= over 1330 ng/dl (Top Limit 1197) LH= 10.5 mIU/ml (Top Limit 8.6) DHEA= 506...

what was your TRT protocol? Before and after numbers will help.

Typically with Clomid, a 5-day stimulation test is performed before a regular dosing schedule (5x 100mg with pre and post blood panels). This is to see how the drug is working on your HPT axis. FT, TT, FSH, LH typically go up with secondary hypo. 50mg a day is a typical starting dosing...

If you're secondary Hypo, your test numbers will go up with Clomid. It's a SERM and should not shutdown your HPTA. the pill is has a cis/trans configuration component where one half is an estrogen agonist. could you share your dosing schedule?

Good post. Glad you got to the root cause.

Exactly Nelson, I wanted to try the flavored versions for shakes and what not. Think Ill just order a small mix and match batch. Thanks for the insight Nelson!

Reading Nelson's review, I went to MaxMuscle to pickup a few flavors. Sales associate said they no longer carry it due to quick expirations once the jug is open. Has this been a deal breaker for previous users?

Thanks Nelson. I was told in the consultation danazol would shutdown the Axis. Opted out for now. 10k D3 is the current protocol, I'll report back in a month.

Clomid stim test by chance?

Yup, this is what I'm afraid of. Verbal diarrhea of supplement use where the only change is a lighter wallet, who out there has seen a change with significant change with nettle?

No medication and no drinking, I've had normal ALT in the past, AST is in normal range. I have another draw in about a month. Upping d3 and adding nettle, any suggestions for good nettle?

VC, always above 40. I hit the mid 50s on the 5 day stim. E2 has always been mid 20s. Already on 6000IU d3 plus D-boron. Kidney levels are fine, ALT has been high the last 4 draws (55-75) with no excercise. Glucose has been high normal.

Thanks Gene. My specific concern is that I have total test levels undulating between 380 and 600 coupled with failing free T with every draw. With the Clomid stim test, I doubled FSH, LH, TT, FT as well as raising SHBG another 15 units to 55. I suspect it's NAFLD, possibly low insulin, and...

Feedback please from individuals that have lowered SHBG and what their protocol is/was. I've searched and found: estrogen/AI medication, danazol, stinging nettle and milk thistle quoted, but I would like to see more applied examples to avoid unnecessary supplements and medication. Thanks!

How do u feel?

N-Acetyl Cysteine I believe.

What's your numbers?

For example, some of us have HMO/PPOs where we are trying to get treatment from a PCP that is not well versed in HRT and we need rebuttals. For example, -PCP doesnt understand relationship between FT and TT. -PCP agrees to TRT, would rather gel you up than Rx a IMJ. -PCP responds with...

Axiron is pretty close.

Sleep deprivation is a killer.

From a PCP perspective that is not well-versed.

My situation exactly. Mornings are for my kid and I would rather suffer than take a paracrine risk. It's clear I am biased and really just gathering applied knowledge for talks with my PCP and other docs that try to spin this because it's easier than IM

Same thoughts exactly Gene, always been against it. Just trying to get perspective from users who have gone down this road, thanks.

I'd like to learn more about this delivery system, the protocol, and side effects from experienced users. Might be an TD option for me if the absorption is optimal and it minimizes paracrine collateral contact, thanks.

I've got a toddler at home and have always been set on IM/SQ. Wondering if I can optimize timing and placement (ie first thing at work, crotch or ribs). Fathers with feedback let me know, thanks.

It was observed that practitioners used aromatase inhibitor and selective estrogen receptor modulator to treat symptoms of hyperestrogenism, irrespective of blood estradiol levels. Gynecomastia was rarely documented as a reason for the prescription= Bad HRT management?

I would think you absolutely need TT and FT to possibly have your foot in the door for HRT (gatekeeper for primary or secondary Dx). All other values should give your physician a good idea on how to tune your treatment plan. To answer your question directly, checkout mymedlab.com and your...

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I think the dosing schedules are more frequent (i.e. 250 IU EOD) to keep steady serum levels. Plenty of info here on HCG monotherapy for secondary.

Arent the orals associated with increased hepatotoxicity?