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The products are available on the market, yes, but they don't get prescribed by uros/endos for TRT use. Unless you're suggesting I try to seek them out illegally (not interested). In any case, it looks like I'm primary, so why would I use HCG? No signs of high E2 at the moment, so no need for...

TRT protocols here in Spain (and in most European countries as well, from what I've seen) don't use HCG or AI. Just Test injections. Not ideal, but it could be worse after all. I consider myself quite lucky being able to self administer my medication, choosing injection frequency and...

I live in Spain. Ultra sensitive E2 test is not available here. I just called the labs and it looks like they forgot about Free T on the latest tests. Hopefully they'll be able to retrieve the info using the same blood samples and will let me know. I'll update the results here as well.

Hi everybody, Long story short: physically active, very lean, healthy 43yo man who's 7 months into TRT. Started out with plenty of wrong advice by unqualified professionals until I found a not so bad endo who at least is willing to experiment with multiple self administered test injections per...

Keep in mind that I live in Spain. The brand of Test I'm using is Testex Prolongatum and it comes in 100mg (the one I'm using) or 250mg 2ml vials. I'm getting all my detachable needles and syringes from local on-line retailers, usually 100 at the time. Really cheap. The syringes I'm using look...

I draw with a 21g, inject with a 31g. I simple swap the needle. To inject 50mg (1ml) of test cyp into my thigh (shallow IM I guess) takes me about 20 to 30 secs. The pressure in the syringe is high but if you make sure you're injecting slowly it works pretty smoothly. I don't get any...

7 months in, enormous progress so far but I can't really say I'm 100% dialed in yet. Your hormonal profile needs time to find the right balance. Consider it like a journey. You'll learn so much about you and how your body works during the whole process. And for those wondering if it's worth it...

I draw with a 25g needle and inject with a 31g (shallow IM in my thigh). Using an insuline syringe. Right now 100mg/2ml solution a week , split into 2x50mg injections, coming down from 150mg a week (3x50mg) and feeling better than ever (apparently less is more... Still waiting for new blood...

Before assuming it's an allergic reaction to the ester make sure you're using proper injection technique. Sometimes if my hand gets a bit shaky and the needle moves around a bit I get some soreness at injection point.

And let me tell you that following that injection protocol it will probably keep feeling like TRT is not working for you!!!! (been there!) Try splitting your dosage in half and double the injection frequency. 100mg once a week is a better starting point. But ideally you'd want to inject 50mg...

200mg a week is a VERY high dosage to start TRT with. Careful with that. It could make your E2 levels skyrocket and end up making you feel even more miserable than pre-treatment. I know that from first hand experience, after having been prescribed a single 250mg T-shot. Hormonal roller...

Interesting topic...

Brilliant! Thank you so much for all the information you share. Really appreciated!

I know that the ultra sensitive test would be ideal, but that's what we get here in Spain for now. 17-beta Estradiol is E2, AFAIK. Thanks for the clarification about Tamoxifen, guys

Hi everybody, What's the most common Tamoxifen dosage to lower Estradiol in men? My latest blood results, on my lowest day, on a 50mg test cyp x 3 injections a week (150 mg total): Free T: 18.60 pg/mL (3.64-19.30) 17 Beta Estradiol: 55 pg/mL (<56) Prolactine: 8.1 ng/mL (3.5-19.4) SHBG: 39.3...

JupiterJazz, I was (and still am) terrified by injections, but using a short insulin pin (30-31g, really tiny needle) makes it incredibly easy and really hard to mess up. After the first couple months of TRT using a nurse for once a week injections in my butt, now I inject myself smaller doses...

I'm not sure...

Hi everybody, Just got back from my endo visit. She looked at the blood tests (see above) and seemed quite pleased with the results. We're gonna stay on this protocol, 140/150mg Test cyp a week, split into three injections (M-W-F), and retest in three months. I'm starting with some Vit D...

Thanks ERO!

Anybody else getting really tired/sleepy when taking zinc supplements? I've tried for the second time taking 30mg a day of Zinc to see if that could lower my Estradiol and possibly improve ED. This time as well, just after a couple days of zinc supp, I start feeling tired/exhausted almost...

Not sure we have Drisdol here in Spain but I'll see what my endo suggests and I'll let you guys know. Thanks!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estradiol http://europepmc.org/abstract/med/6437878 "Estradiol, or more precisely, 17&#946;-estradiol, is a human sex hormone and steroid, and the primary female sex hormone." 17 beta estradiol = E2 It's the name used here for the hormone. Thyroid function...

Thank you for the reply, Nelson. And sorry for posting in the wrong section. This time the endo didn't ask for total T. Kind of weird, I thought. Anyway, hematocrit level was 48.30% (40-55). Other blood parameters that might (or might not) be related to ED: - Vit D 25OH 22.10ng/mL (30-100)...

Hi guys, here you have a follow up on my TRT journey. 43 y/o. Lean and active/healthy lifestyle. Started in March due to deep fatigue, focus, low mood and ED symptoms that had been going on for several years already (ED since my mid 20s). Blood test confirmed very low T, probably due to...

Really interesting. Thanks!

What's your bodyfat %? Wondering if that might affect the T conversion.

I agree. And indeed it wasn't the point of the original post.

Hi there, Seeing the wide range of Test dosages people on TRT use, I was wondering what are the main determining factors influencing the amount of Test a person needs to stay in the upper end range. I guess it's a tricky questions to answer, seeing how many variables are in play, but I guess...

SubQ or shallow IM: Any real difference? Using insulin syringe/needle (30g/12mm) on a 2 x week 50mg Test Cypionate protocol. I've been rotating injection sites between left/right thighs (shallow IM) and left/right side of belly area (subQ). Third week on this protocol and I haven't really...

I'm not 100% sure if it's the 2x week injection protocol that's making a difference, or just the fact that my body is getting used to the therapy and the new hormonal balance. At some point in the next months I might try going back to 100mg every 5/6 days and see if I notice any difference...

Quick update on my situation. After a few weeks of pretty intense highs and lows (not sure if caused by the once a week dosage or just the body's adaptation to TRT), my energy levels seem pretty stable right now. This has been my first week of 2x weekly subQ injections (50mg at the time) and so...