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Jaded.

Why are you so jaded about exogenous testosterone? Do you not respond well to it?

Leave it to @Nelson Vergel to be the only one to not bash @LionTamer. I freaking love it. I’m glad we have atleast one person on this forum that isn’t jaded about exogenous testosterone.

Blood levels stabilize in about 5-6 times the half life of the ester you are using. With Enanthate’s half-life being ~5 days, 4-5 weeks into your new regimen is when you should conduct blood work. Your next set of labs will give you a quantitative view of how high you numbers are. If you feel...

How about Magnesium and/or Melatonin?

Have you added pregnenolone/progesterone before bed as you stated in the OP?

A few key takeaways… …a total testosterone of 1197 ng/dL is not double physiological testosterone levels in men. It is merely double the mean. …the mean tells you the statistical average testosterone levels in a cohort. It does not, however, serve as the flagship level for health and wellness...

Face validity for the CDC test is very low considering it’s generally accepted that sex hormones peak in late adolescence. It is also known that reference ranges have been consistently titrated downward to reflect what is normal for our population. As our population has become ‘bigger’, these...

APS would have it.

Agreed with @Nelson Vergel. Doses under 400 IU have been shown to likely be ineffective. Personally, a dose of 500 IU is the most effective for me (once or twice per week).

While the norm or statistical mean indicates average testosterone levels, the mean does not serve as the single generalizable marker for physiological levels of T. It simply serves as the average derived from men across the range. In fact, in teen males natural TT can reach levels of 1,200...

Slightly being defined as past the upper quartile but not double the norm. A TT of 1,200 ng/dL would be considered to be slightly supraphyiological. I will take myself as an example of why treating how a patient feels is as important if not more than maintaining physiological testosterone...

…and yet we are still left with the question, do men on TRT who are targeting this 5-9 mg of testosterone per day actually feel good compared to slightly higher dosing? There are so few people on TRT who microdose at the level of neuroticism that most of us do. Are we actually doing better than...

Wtf does this response have to do with the original post?

Correct. I’ve done 1.5 to 2 IUs at one point in time rather than split dosing and it feels very unnaturally high. 0.75 IU gets my IGF-1 to 350. If I take a smaller dosage (smaller than 2 IU) one time per day, I start feeling like I have low IGF-1 by mid-day so I prefer the split dosing protocol.

0.75 IU am and pm.

Definitely. I bought 50 weeks worth of Norditropin and it has been great. Their service and professionalism is very good. I will be going back once I am out.

I wouldn’t be overly concerned about your dosage. 1-2 clicks am/pm is a more normal dosage, but your next blood tests while on this protocol will tell you if you need to lower it. The DHT response you get from scrotal application should help with high estrogen.

If your thyroid function is normal, I would be hesitant to take anything just for the sake of it. There are a lot of TRT clinics that will pump out medications that you do not need just for the sake of running up your bill. If your levels are normal, don’t fix something that isn’t broke.

Your estradiol is pretty high especially with a total testosterone or 309 ng/dL. I wonder why your estradiol was so high. What is your body fat percentage? Is your liver in good health? Did they run other blood tests that you could share? How many clicks are in one gram with your cream? 4 clicks?

I am fairly certain that 4 clicks is 1 gram, or 200 mg. So, 3 clicks would be 150 mg testosterone. At a 10% absorption rate, that puts you at absorbing 15 mg testosterone am and 15 mg pm. That’s quite a bit of testosterone.

Front loading is a failed and flawed method. Simply my opinion, but it would probably be worth using your Natesto to bridge the uncomfortability of waiting for enanthate to build in your system. In other words, use the Natesto alongside the low dose daily injections until the enanthate is...

Are you still happy with Jatenzo? I know you were posting about your T levels dropping after 2 months. Do you feel better on it than injections?

@Gman86 The only brand in the US aside from compounded is Westward so it’s probably just a 10 ml compounded vial.

In excess, GH will create unnatural rates of cellular division, which would apply to all cells including skin cells. One could see the logic that if skin cells are dividing at a rapid pace, moles would be included and overtime you would have more moles. There is no problem with this as long as...

Agreed. Stopping T would reduce quality of life for most, even with HCG still present. HCG and FSH/HMG should work in sufficient doses over time. HMG is 75 IU 3 times per week, typically.

Dream body clinic in Puerto Vallarta has a fly-in fly-out service where you fly in to buy HGH after conducting labs with the doctor, and fly out with 50 week’s worth of HGH from the medical center. That is where I get mine from because I refuse to pay what it costs in the US.

Using too low of a dosage contributed to me feeling lowered energy, yes. Too high of a dosage also contributes to lower energy for me.

When I take low dose TRT, 50-70 mg injectable testosterone alongside HCG, mental clarity may be slightly better and overall energy for me may be slightly better. However, similar to what you are finding, I would also feel very tired around 7:30-8:00 pm, falling asleep in my chair around 8:30. I...

Make sure to monitor your A1C and glucose levels with that much HGH. If they continue to creep into prediabetic territory you may need to think about moving to a more therapeutic dose. I was taking 2 IU of Norditropin daily and had to reduce to 1.5 for that reason. Even though brand name HGH is...

Your plan sounds solid. One correction in the thought-process, though. The HCG and optional Clomid protocol (which I would opt for HCG monotherapy should that be the direction you have to go) is not intended to restart your HPTA. The HCG would be run at a high dose of 3000 IU EOD until fertility...