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I went to EOD after seeing Dr. Saya's thread on HCG last year. The HCT, HGB have always stayed the same, even when I had low t. I was kind of hoping for a little increase to help with my endurance (it really sucks), but they've stayed the same. I still get tired easily and still take afternoon...

Hi, I just had labs done and I'm posting them up. I wasn't expecting to see over 1300 in total T, especially since I've been on Androgel since 2014 and it's been around 600-800. All I changed was my hCG. I was doing 120iu's a day and I switched to 500 eod. I don't have it here but the...

Hi, I take 500iu's every other day

I agree 100%

Yeah, but at 992 total, his E2, RBC's and Hematocrit are all high. Even his hemoglobin is at the upper limit. Now I know everyone is going to say, "get on an AI and start donating blood" but maybe he can drop his TT to the 800's and see if that'll help instead of him having to titrate AI's and...

While on TRT, with HCG, I still had 75 mil sperm (over 20 mil is good) and I've been on for 3 years. I've taken HCG since I started and get my sperm tested every 6 months for the first year and now it's yearly. I'm still fertile. 4 pumps of Androgel daily and 500ui's of HCG every other day.

Pump is dose or application. Each dose of Androgel is 20.25mg. The recommended starting dose is two pumps or 40.5mg's and the max dose is 4 pumps or 81mg's.

Thanks guys

Hi, I take 500iu's EOD of hCG. It comes in a 10,000 iu vial. What is do is add 4ml's of bac water to it and that lets me shoot 20 units for 500iu's on a 1CC insulin needle. 10,000iu's, with 4mLs of water is 2,500iu's per mL. That is 25iu's per unit so 20 units will give me 500iu's. Now...

Hi, Most people get 200mg's per mL of testosterone cypoinate in the US. It would say 200mg/mL on your bottle. They come in different strengths too such as 100mg/mL or you might get testosterone enanthate at 250mg/mL, but the common one is 200mg/mL. 1mL is 200mg's .5 mL is 100mg's .3 mL is...

That was going to be an option for me if my insurance didn't cover Androgel. I got tired of needles and thankfully, the gel worked and I hope it continues to. I've heard it stopped woroed for some people after years of use. My insurances covers it totally so I pay nothing for 2 bottles a month...

About gel, nobody can tell you. You might be able to absorb it very well and get to 1000 on 2 pumps or you might not absorb well and only get to 300 on 4 pumps. With an injection, there's no absorption issue or anything. You inject 100mg's and you're getting 70mg's of testosterone, no matter...

I'm sorry I didn't reply. I am prescribed 4 pumps a day but that takes me into 1000 so I do 2 pumps which is around 500-600 or 3 pumps which puts me around 800.

Everybody responds differently. A lot of people start out on gel and then go to injections because the gel doesn't get their levels high enough, or it works well, then it stops, or the price might be too high, or they get DHT or estradiol side effects, or they get tired of daily applications...

It's already like that in NY. They threw testosterone and HCG in Schedule 2, right alongside oxycodone and morphine.

In NY, testosterone is already a Schedule 2 drug. It's only a matter of time.

http://www.reuters.com/article/health-testosterone-fda-idUSL1N1CV1MA

Thanks Henry

I would say they are enhanced. Imagine, if I were natural, and I had a bad day eating, or didn't sleep well, or drank too much, it would affect my natural T levels, but, if I were on TRT, nothing short of missing an injection, could affect my T levels. They would be rock solid, no matter how...

Hi, Just curious, is there any medication you can take that would lower your HGB/HCT without the need for the blood donation, saving your iron and ferritin stores?

I agree with you 100% and I'm not trying to be pessimistic or even play Devil's Advocate, I'm just basing my thoughts on my experiences concerning TRT. At the end of the day, attitudes that society, even some doctors, have to change. Once it's seem as something as vital as a statin, blood...

Now a cancer survivor, person with HIV, etc. That's part of their ****tail of meds. It would be easier for them. For the majority of men on TRT, we're not seen in that same light. I had a doc tell me that the majority people he's seen on TRT can get it fixed with proper diet, exercise...

I see where you're coming from but I think the biggest obstacle to TRT is proving medical necessity. I don't see anywhere it's shown that it's medically necessary for a person to be on TRT. Think about it. Look at the commercials. All they show is that TRT solves erection, tiredness and...

Probably NYC. In Manhattan you can easily pay $4,500 - $10,000 a month in rent. In Brooklyn, It can go from $2,000-$8,000

This is just me, but if I were homeless, I wouldn't care about TRT anymore. I have more important things to worry about. I'll say this, I've been on TRT for the past 3 years now and it's been great, but I can live without it. It's not like insulin to a diabetic. I've been on injections and...

I can sympathize there. I got very tired of injecting every Tuesday morning and Friday night, alternating butt cheeks (right on Tuesday and left on Friday). I know some of the guys here use smaller needles and also inject subcutaneously so they could better help than I can. I eventually...

Imagine what you had at 2 days if you have 1450 after 10 days! Smaller shot, spaced closer together would make it easier to manage estrodial and others.

CoastWatcher is right. There is so much that goes along with TRT. What if you run into a woman that wants to have children. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it is more difficult. Also, you will be tethered to a doc for the rest of your life. What about medical insurance, copays and even...

I read it but I couldn't believe it. I thought maybe he had you on Testosterone Undeconate. That's the only one I read of with such a long time between shots

Testosterone cypionate 200mg/mL Inject 0.25 ML every 4 weeks. Am I reading that correctly? 50mg's a month?

Hi, Did you talk to the doc? I mean, did you tell him your symptoms and ask him what would he do if your levels came back low? Did you ask about TRT and how was his reaction? What's your height, weight? How's your sleep quality? Wow, even your HGB/HCT is low. For the testosterone, it says...