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Have you checked other things? Thyroid? Have you had a sleep study done? What about your diet? Exercise? How much do you weigh? Do you drink? Are you on other medications? Age? Do you have more blood work? Wow, your testosterone is practically at the top of the range. It might be...

I'm just guessing but what is seems like is that you were not primary or secondary......you didn't have hypogonadism. You were healthy. You ran a steroid cycle in your 20's and stayed on at 120mg's.....you were cruising. Now you saw a doctor and want to come off. He prescribed HCG. You're...

I'm over 1300 on Androgel: https://www.excelmale.com/forum/showthread.php?9352-My-labs-on-4-pumps-of-Androgel-and-500iu-s-of-hCG-EOD Give it a try and see if it works out for you.

Damn, I guess I'm different. I actually lost weight. I was at 228 and went down to 188. But I had the bellyfat issues that came with low T and once I got on, it took a while, but the bellyfat went away.

The bad thing is with the new reference ranges provided by LabCorp, a doc will probably look at that 505 total T (out of a reference range of around 264-916) and say how you're pretty up there in total T and blame your past on it. When your doc presented you with your labs, what did he say...

Hi, I'm at 1300, peak and have been for this year: https://www.excelmale.com/forum/showthread.php?9352-My-labs-on-4-pumps-of-Androgel-and-500iu-s-of-hCG-EOD I don't feel any different from when I was at 800 and since my hemoglobin and hematocrit hasn't climbed, I just leave it at 1300. Now...

I'm a manager at my job. I supervise 10 people. I never held meetings and was just scared to meet with my team. My team was chaotic. I was a meek leader. I avoided confrontation, sat at my desk, never spoke up, etc. My team was actually bullying me! I started testosterone after going to...

Damn, I would kill to have those natural levels.

My doc has been prescribing me 2.5mL's a month of 200mg's cypionate for over three years now, and he does it for all of his patients and nothing has every happened to him. Every month I get a 10mL vial and have been for the past three years.

LMAO!!! To be honest, I'm kind of worried too. Every year, my doc has to send in a form to BC/BS and they authorize my treatment for another year. I was 290 and 277 on 2 early morning tests at Labcorp three years ago. Now, I'm wondering if they'll request that I get off testosterone for 6...

The OP didn't come in asking for what additional tests he should ask his doctor. He asked for clomid. Then he said a small boost of T would help him lose the weight. What would help him lose the weight is the proven methods to lose weight: eat better and increase activity levels. The OP...

So you'd rather him spend a crucial year of development time taking hormone drugs? What if the clomid doesn't work? What's the next step? Testosterone. Testosterone for a developing boy versus eating right and exercising? What's so bad about taking the safest route and having him spend his...

And here's my experience. My 48 year old cousin.....6'3 and 350lbs. His A1C was 6.6 and his T level was around 270 or something. Doc refused to put him on T and told him to lose weight. He cleaned up his diet, got a membership to the gym and lost over 125lbs over a year. Now his A1C is 5.8...

I agree with crossfitter. He's still growing and Clomid is some serious medication to give to a growing boy....really anyone. It's not like popping a vitamin. I agree with the endo. I would think real hard before giving a kid this. Why not try to get him to lose 100lbs or so? He's morbidly...

Would your doc let you try each one out and see which you respond best to? As you can see, captain went as much as 1100 on fortesta and I went as high as 1300 on Androgel. Now, for some, they get no response so you'll have to try and see which works best for you.

https://www.excelmale.com/forum/showthread.php?9352-My-labs-on-4-pumps-of-Androgel-and-500iu-s-of-hCG-EOD

You'll be fine. I inject 500iu's every other day. A one time hit won't do anything

Great advice in this thread. My thing would be this.....how well do you know your urologist? The reason why I ask is, is he the type that would freak out if you came to him with your own protocol? I know my doc would freak out if I came in with a specific protocol and accuse me of hanging out...

I would say, give it a chance: https://www.excelmale.com/forum/showthread.php?9352-My-labs-on-4-pumps-of-Androgel-and-500iu-s-of-hCG-EOD

I don't know. It says that the people tested were healthy, non-obese men aged 19-39 The 2.5th percentile was 264 The 5th percentile was 303 The 50th percentile was 531 The 95th percentile was 852 The 97.5th percentile was 916. The numbers for 50 and above aren't too bad. It's the lower...

Hi, The 4 pumps of Androgel is 81mg's but people only absorb around 10% of that so I might be getting around 8.1mg's a day. I don't use an AI. I agree with everyone here about AI's. I don't have any symptoms and I'd rather stay away from AI's. If I ever needed them, I'd try other things...

http://www.menshealth.com/health/is-your-testosterone-level-normal?utm_source=********.com&utm_medium=Social&utm_term=790732743&utm_campaign=Men's%20Health https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article-lookup/doi/10.1210/jc.2016-2935 This is stating the range of T should be between 264-916. Can...

This is the best way to do it. Labs will always point you in the right direction. I take 4 pumps of Androgel. At 250iu's, on Mon, Wed and Fri, I was around 500. Then I went to every other day. My T went to 600. Then I went to 350 on Mon, Wed and Fri and it was 800. I then went to 350...

I've done every 3.5 days on injections and I've done daily with Androgel. I've ready that Androgel is more 'natural' since you get the daily 'highs and lows' that mimic the body's natural circadian rhythm. I do feel better on Androgel but that might be because of the DHT spike, who knows. I...

Don't tell the doctor that. He'll automatically assume, 'bodybuilder', 'steroid abuser', etc. Stick with the libido, weakened erection, etc. Don't talk about athletic performance, the gym, etc.

Here is what I ask my doc: TSH Free T4 Free T3 RT3 Thyroid antibodies PSA Vit D testosterone total Testosterone free Dihydrotestosterone Prolactin Estradiol sensitive 140244 CBC HBA1C Metabolic panel Lipid panel CRP Pregnenolone DHEA-S LH FSH SHBG

I'm on my phone so I can't search for it but, if I remember correctly, the average for a 20 something, healthy male is 600 or so. Your levels are not mediocre. I bet there are a lot of people here, me included, that would love to be at 588 natural. I was at 277 when I started at 38 years old...

Probably not. You're close to 600. That's a very healthy T level, especially at close to 40 years old.

I wonder if it's the Androgel or if it's the hCG that's giving me such a great response.

Hi, I don't do anything special. I've always showered before bed so it's nothing new for me. I also don't walk around without a shirt off. I've been on it for 3 years now and don't a have a problem with it.

My MCH and MCHC has gotten better. For as long as I can remember, those have always been out of range and now, they are in range.