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Nah, the 1300 is 4 pumps of Androgel with 500iu's of HCG 3x's a week. I've been at 1300 for the past couple of years and my blood work comes back fine, no HCT or E2 issues so as long as I don't have those, my doc and I are fine with it. on cycle I was in the 3500's and up

I've always wondered if that diurnal effect even matters. My doc thinks it does and I read that Dr. Crisler thinks so too. They claim that the daily high in the morning and tapering down throughout the day is better since it's natural and it mimics the testosterone of a younger man. But I...

You had a honeymoon with gel because it just didn't work. Sometimes it works, and alot of times it doesn't. You had the honeymoon because when you started the gel, it augmented your natural production. After a while, your body ceases to make testosterone since it sees that you're getting it...

Hi, Wouldn't test prop be a better solution for daily injections? I know the prop ester clears quicker than the cypionate ester. Here's what I Google'd real quick: "For practical purposes, testosterone cypionate and enanthate may be used fairly interchangeably. The half-life of enanthate is...

Wow, I didn't know that. I've done about 3 cycles of 600mg's of testosterone for 12 weeks each and I used Aromasin (12.5mg's every day for 12 weeks during the cycles) and it worked very well but I didn't know that it was permanent. I was under the impression that aromatase returned after a...

I was 38 years old with the scraggly little facial hair of a high school student. I was 38 years old and still looked like kid. No kidding, when I went out with my wife, people would think I'm her kid. It was thin, scraggly and embarrassing. After about a year and a half on T, it started...

I'm guessing it's what your body can tolerate. You'll have to see how high you can go before you hit side effects. I've seen some people get side effects at 600 and then some people can have a trough of 1100 and be fine. It's all in how you can tolerate.

I read that fat has the aromatase (sp?) enzyme which will convert T to E. So, a lower body fat will have less fat that can convert T to E which will be more T to use instead of it being wasted in conversion.

Something else too. more hair. I've been trying to grow a beard for 25 years! After a couple of years on TRT, now I've got a beard and body hair. People also notice the calmness and my direct approach. Coworkers and my wife both see it. TRT also helped my A1C. It was around 6.0 and now...

I did tons or research and read alot of books. I read so many books. I was on several forums (I was on so many and for so long. I just kept on reading) and after reading the benefits, I decided to give it a try. Honestly, it felt like this was a chance to get on the fountain of youth. I...

My thoughts are this. Make sure your sources are good, stable and can provide you with clean testosterone, AI's and hCG. Then get a good back up in case they run out, get shut down, etc. Always make sure to have 2 sources and stockpile your T, hCG and AI's. When it comes to your protocol...

It seems like your mind is made up. You don't need validation. You've done the research and have a protocol. Just go for it a start your TRT.

C'mon dude...be serious. I had a 1065 pound total (245 bench, 325 squat and 495 deadlift) at 277 total testosterone level. And that was with a bad back and I was only working out for a year. I was almost 40 also. Never touched a barbell before that. My first bench was 95lbs, squat was 115lbs...

8-9 on some days. How do you feel on the others?

Sorry you had that experience. I didn't even know my T levels were 290, 277 and 225 four years ago. I didn't feel the symptoms. I had energy, libido, etc. I was tested because of fertility and that's when the doc surprised my wife and I and told us I had low T. Now, I was an avid cross...

Thank you for this post and I say it with sincerity. Even though I've done very well on TRT, I'm always on the search for more information and I'm always reading and some theories, like this one, make me think. When I read this poster's response, it really had me thinking and I thought to post...

I spoke to someone about this one time and he told me about myxedema. I mentioned what I read about people getting on Androgel and then backsliding months later. He gave me 2 theories: 1. The person gets on and gets the boost in T and is doing great. Nice T levels, etc. Then, because of...

I've seen bits and pieces of it but I've been nothing concrete. I saw this reply on the testosterone section of Reddit. Someone asked the question and that was the poster's response. His response made me think and I've been doing research on it. I've been google searching since last night and...

I've been on it for so long because it works for me. I've been on injections and Androgel. Both worked very well. No blood donations, no AI's no issues. I have no complaints but I'm not blind to it either. As with any medicine, there is always a side effect. My body has adjusted to it but...

Great advice right here. TRT should be the last resort since there are other issues that may arise and fertility is one of them. Now, I froze sperm but, with freezing sperm, you'll need a Fertility Doc to get pregnant. That's not cheap, and not many insurance companies cover this so think...

We all know that life with low testosterone can be miserable. So, what's your point?

HCG is not perfect. It's an LH analog so he's get that but he still needs FSH for full sperm production. HCG does have FSH but for the full FSH, he'll need HMG along with HCG and his TRT. The best thing is to get a sperm analysis done and then get some sperm frozen. That's what I did. Let...

Not to be confrontational but since you seem so knowledgeable with your answer, why don't you disprove what he said? I don't see anywhere in your answer in which you did. Why don't you quote parts of the books or link the discussions from this site here that reference or directly answer what's...

I was on another site (I'm not sure if I can mention other sites here so I'll just play it safe and quote the question and response) and someone asked a question about the downsides of TRT. Here is the question: "Is this true: there are countless secondary metabolic/hormonal pathways which...

I've never had problems but I do use this forum for self education. My thoughts are this is my life so I'm gonna make sure that I'm the expert on what pertains to me. I've never run into sides, thankfully, and I trust my doc, so I really don't have to worry, but I feel it's always good to be...

I could be wrong but I think your LH is high because your HPTA is 'screaming' at your testicles to work. Your body secretes more gonadotrophins (LH and FSG) to signal to your testicles to work more to produce more testosterone. That's why guys who are primary have high LH and FSH. They have...

From what I'm reading, he's right...in theory. If it works, it works. Also, if the price is right too. If my company didn't cover it, it wouldn't make sense to pay so much for it when injections cost a $10 copay for a bottle that'll last 3 months.

Something my doc told me that other day made me think.... He said that Androgel was the best method to introduce T. Here's his opinion....and it's rally got me thinking He said that it matches a person's natural rhythm (high early and lowers throughout the day) versus T injection which decays...

Vince is right, Androgel is very expensive. My company covers it 100% so I'm cool with it but if it didn't, I would have gone injection. I actually did injections for a while and then switched to gel. I got tired of injecting. I hit 1440 on injections. About the numbers, I honestly don't...

How long has it been since the M1T? Maybe your body can correct itself. I don't know how old you are, but if you're young, do you want to deal with the next 5 or 6 decades of needles, doctors, insurance, etc.? I know of many people who had insurance run out, or insurance not pay for it...

Do you do your own injections? If you do, try twice a week or every week. If you don't, can you find another doc or, try out the Androgel. I'm running at 1300 on it so for some people, it'll work.