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...but do you feel better?

I had a peak of 1200- 2 hours after application and 400 24 hours later.

Check your estradial levels...too high?

When I started nandralone, my BP dropped about 20 points on each end. I had to stop due to other symptoms.

Yes, high E2 symptoms

Yes...sometimes I wake up and it's liked my eyes are glossed over and it takes anywhere from a few minutes to an hour to clear. I've also noticed a lot of eye crust in the morning from certain dosages. For me, I believe this occurs when I drop my estradial to low since I don't have either...

I am not sure I would shrug off observations about eyes from a person who lives and breathes..eyes.

SHBG 14--- Since I've used different doses, a ration is probably a more accurate approach. For example, I was fine with 1000 T and 40ish E, but not with 500T and 40ish E. Around a T to E ratio of 12:1 or less.

All around, I am much better at 84mg per week than I was at 140 or 200. It took me over 2 years to get the more is better mentality out of my mind.

When my estradial gets to high, my bp and hr go up.

FYI, Lisinopril nearly killed me. I woke up one night with my throat nearly swollen shut, tongue swollen out of my mouth. They gave me epi at emergency room, didn't budge the swelling at all. Close to putting a trach in, but they gave me fresh frozen plasma, which did the trick. While doc...

Have you tested your hemoglobin or hematocrit on Deca. Doc added Deca to my protocol and I already run about 50, so I was worried the deca would add to it.

Exsmple microdosing...I only take .05 ai, a day

If you are able, You can search the forum and find many, many responses on this.

You will feel like hell as your body adjusts to the new dose, but you will remain healthier in the long run.

Let us know how it goes. I had similar experiences with HCG, so I always stop taking it. I was thinking about microdosing it each day like I do my TRT.

So...you dose once a week?

/ Who did you go through

For creams, you are fine to check your bloods. Probably more important, how are you feeling? Don't be in a rush to up your doses...more is not better for some people. The good thing with creams, changes are felt much faster than shots.

TBH...with those numbers... you probably didn't need to be on TRT, unless you and the doc found very specific symptoms.

Just work the T piece before adding anything else.

Hey Vince, you will have to let us know how the new labs look compared to your previous protocol.

Well....what I know for sure...your numbers are high for week 4, so your dose probably was too high. It's nearly impossible for me to wait six weeks for resulsts, and I've been chasing my tail for two years. So, be patient and keep your doc informed or you will be on here two years from now...

Try skipping two doses and see if your symptoms improve. If so, your dosing is too high.

I re comment ditching the hcg before making other major changes, if e is an issue.

Dude...if you feel good do not make changes...wtf...people are chasing what you've found....I've been chasing that feeling since I've been on injectables...we hear from cream guys, they come back once or twice to let us know how much better they feel, then disappear. They've moved on with...

I guess the lack of replies proved my point?

When they figure it out, they stop visiting....another successful cream protocol or he switched to shots and it worked? I was really hoping to hear back from him.

I've posted bloodwork several times...its been a challenging journey... for me 14 mg t a day with .05 ai results in approximately 500ish t, 24ish ft, 18 e... 16 mg gives me 850, 35, 28...I seem to feel best at the 16mg dose....however, after nearly two years of shots, I've only found moderate...

I get them when I take too much at once...try 3x a week dosing.

Your plan sounds reasonable...go three weeks and have bloodwork