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Update, semen analysis came back as you would expect for someone on TRT for almost two years (even with hCG). I don’t have the paperwork here with me but suffice to say my sperm count was close to 0. My doctor is sending an HMG prescription to Empower. I will take my HCG and test in conjunction...

where did you find that price?

i remember hearing somewhere that cialis has a mild anti-estrogenic effect. Could be the issue?

Go ahead and post. Very happy things are working great for you on clomid only. Have you stayed on the whole 18 months? If so, I wouldn’t even consider TRT as you’re able to just use your body’s own production.

Good god that protocol sounds like pure misery.

I believe L-Arginine is a precursor of IGF-1, though I’m not positive. I’m sure someone will come in and clear that up.

Personally, I would go to the hospital with this one, without delay.

Dailies lowered my SHBG (28 to 14) and raised E2 as well.

I’m making an assumption right now, I went to the lab for a semen analysis a few days ago. From what I’ve seen in other posts, hCG alone (especially low dose) usually doesn’t preserve fertility. I guess I’ll know for sure soon. I can’t get the prescription until those results are in, any way.

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My NP is giving me the option of HMG or FSH. I already take about 500iu of HCG per week (split into two, any more aromatizes). Any reason to go for FSH over the HMG....cost, effect?

Yeah try Zinc. If you take it often you may have to add in a copper supplement as well, but I never took it regularly. I can get low E symptoms (sore joints, ED) if I take it every day.

I also felt my best on T-only, but recently have started with 250iu of hCG twice per week for the same reasons. I just couldn’t get used to the feeling of having an empty sack. Two weeks in and my boys have come back a good bit, but I’ve also experienced a little facial flushing, hopefully this...

When I switched my injections to every day it cut my SHBG in half from 28 to 14. Now this well could be a case of correlation =/= causation, but I hadn’t changed up anything else at the time. I’m back on 2x week now and prefer this.

This.

While on TRT?

Those are very typical high E2 symptoms. I’m constantly sleepy and also moody with high E2. Plus no sex drive. Sounds about right to me. I had nothing but E2 issues on Clomid. Don’t think I made it past the two week mark.

I don’t have any experience with Sustanon, but regarding daily injection i believe a number of us have found that it helps to keep a lower dose. The body seems to need less test when on daily injections. When I was doing 20mg of T Cyp everyday (along with hCG eod) my TT was over 1400 and I...

I felt awful on DIM. Something akin to depression but extremely “blah”. I have tried CDG before but before I was on TRT. I highly recommend Zinc as an AI before going the pharmaceutical route.

Update: My new NP (who is amazing btw) gave me an order for a semen analysis and pending on results said she’d be fine with prescribing FSH or HMG. I guess I need to figure out who has good quality HMG or FSH for a reasonable price.

I see now that they always seem to add HCG as well as the FSH.

I s I second this.

It’s also important to know that I travel quite a bit and many times just end up having to eat whatever I can get my hands on. As well as the fact that I sometimes drink like a fish. So I’m not the beacon of health that some people on this forum are. I’m 38, 5’10, 215lbs.

I brought my total T down. There’s no way I would get on a cholesterol medication, I would just reverse what caused the cholesterol problem, in this case the T dose. I will say from a bystanders viewpoint that you are starting at a high dose of T if you are indeed trying to play it safe. But...

I don’t have exact numbers; but both HDL and LDL were midway in the healthy range and after 6 months of TRT they were both out of range. That was taking 20mg of test cyp ED and a pretty big dose of hCG. I think 1000iu EOD. My first protocol was aggressive lol.

It did raise mine, but i was taking too much at the beginning and my TT was over 1400.

I had no issues switching from EOD to 2x a week. I’m a low SHBG guy. I also stopped hCG altogether to avoid any E2 issues, but just started 250iu x2 a week again to bring back the boys a little. FWIW I feel better on 2x a week. Try it out.

What is the cholesterol med?

Hmmm. Problems started a month ago. You started a new medication a month ago. What could it be?

I always tend to bruise in the thighs. When I did inject thighs it was the top. Always did experience some soreness. FWIW I always inject in the delts- painless.

Cialis works for me in a matter of hours. I can’t take much, or I’ll get some serious flushing/redness/headaches. It’s kind of crazy that your E2 will get up to 60 without AI; but as you said you didn’t get the sensitive test so who knows what it really was. As some have suggested, I would...