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This is well timed. I’ve been consuming 100mg of test base twice daily orally for about a week on top of my 12 mg test prop I’m experimenting with. Weight hasn’t changed. Erectile quality and libido are up. But that could be from switching to prop. I’m going to go up to 200 mg twice daily orally...

Very eager to hear updates and am, as always, ready to experiment.

Low e2 sucks. I’ve been pretty jacked and athletic with abs my whole adult life but have low libido. With 550ng test my e2 sits around 13. Beer helps but too much allopregnenolone builds up with alcohol.

@Vince What differences did you notice from dhea at that dose? And pregnenolone at that dose? Did you start them at the same time?

What base is your cream in?

exactly! I have a question for ya, do you feel oral testosterone is any way less suppressive? Testicular atrophy as bad? I’m wondering if the liver is easily able to secrete excess testosterone the body cannot fit within its normal processes and in turn may be less suppressive at lower doses

It’s nothing fancy, I may try just some raw testosterone undecanoate orally

One thing that will prevent many from trying jatenzo is the 1000 bucks per month price tag. Not sure I would try it due to this. If one can get insurance to cover it and go through the process that you did it would be worth it. It would be cool if empower came up with a comparable product for less.

I see oral testosterone undecanoate (active ingredient in jatenzo) has a half life of around 18 hours and 3-7% bioavailability when taken orally.

That’s huge man! Have you changed anything else besides the jatenzo? Like eating or sleeping etc.

So you likely sub 30 lbs to your goal. Lost around half of your goal. That is great

That’s great. How many more lbs are you trying to lose if you have an ideal weight in mind.

Congrats man! I’m curious as to how much weight you thought you could stand to loose and how much you’ve lost to date?

We are grateful for you leading the way here on jatenzo. I’m sure it has a place for men and will likely grow due to your feedback on the matter. I will put it on my list of experiments to do.

I have 100000iu of hcg in a deep freezer that I’m not going to use.

What are the communities thoughts on test prop time until peak levels are reached after injection?

I’ve always appreciated your zeal for health. I really admire your dedication to diet and having fun. It seems like you have built a lot of good habits that continue to serve you well. I bet you are a really cool guy in person. Thanks for all you offer bro

I agree that happiness is very important. This forum has a huge responsibility as a hub of information to guide men’s choices as it pertains to both longevity and functioning. That’s what separates us from the other sites. I think that discussing solely what feels right in the moment has its...

Are you reconsidering the prop half life after further testing?

I remembered at one point you said you felt as though prog might have been negatively affecting you sexually. Do you still feel that way?

What has been the best dose and frequency for enclom for you

I say drop to 6. That’s still more t than you were probably making naturally. I don’t feel dose reductions personally. Maybe you will be the same. I would also lower the thyroid dose by 33%. This is likely a main culprit. Do both. Your t3 is really solid probably more than you need to feel well.

Do you still use cialis?

How long since you switched to low dose

How many calories do you eat in a day? Hold old? Height weight?

Maybe you were just taking too much valerate. As valerate has more estrogen per mg than cypionate. But there may be a small peak and trough with such a small dose. I’m really interested to see some kind of e2 test while you are feeling go. It would be great information for us on this forum...

Also how many weeks until you started to feel a differemce

Nice what is t dose and frequency? This is huge news. It would be great to know your e2 number before even if it was standard test. And then it would be dope if you got e2 after sensitive and standard. I have valerate but will be buying cypionate/enanthate now that you said this.

Any update on water retention?

Thanks for this update. Im starting to think about giving estradiol valerate a go or buying some raw enanthate or cypionate.

That is cool. How old are you? Body fat %? Can you rate your libido and eq on a scale of 1-10? On a scale of 1-10 how did you feel before using estradiol? And also currently how do you feel 1-10?