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As said above, labs would definitely help the conversation, but I'm hearing more and more guys doing very well on the once to twice daily application of scrotal cream.

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Nice true freeT to of 40ng/dl. Numbers look fantastic and it sounds like you feel fantastic.

I believe 1 drop of 2% lugols is 2.5mg and 5% lugols is 6.25mg.

No, you don't need the hCG unless you want to have kids. On another note, is there a particular reason you are planning to come off and return to your pre TRT state? There could be multiple reasons you're not feeling dialed in to be honest. DHEA, Pregnenolone, Thyroid, etc.... If you can post...

We need to see a complete set of labs here. I don't see anything with respect to T3, FreeT3, RT3. Very incomplete picture unfortunately. We need to rule out elevated RT3 and/or a conversion problem.

You might need to increase a little then. I believe using the numbers as a guide and paying attention to our bodies (symptoms or lack thereof) will tell if you're too low or too high. Your numbers aren't bad per say, but then again you don't sound dialed in yet either so a mild dose increase...

Androgel is simply never going to be able to get you dialed in (dosed too low). Need to go the compounded topical route or injections. Your SHBG is on the higher on so you'll need a decent dose to come over the top of that and allow your FreeT to increase.

Echo what was said above. Room for improvement in FreeT for sure. Also need to see FreeT3.

If you're feeling great then don't touch a thing. Let them prescribe you the AI if they want and just don't take it. Your numbers look excellent.

Can you give us the specific details of your protocol? And possibly post latest labwork?

What Vince said.

Have you tried any doses between the 50mg per week and the 90mg per week? It would seem that there is a dose in there that's probably the best for you. Also, does your doc prescribe BPC-157? Have not had the chance to try it myself yet, but am hearing great things about it regarding injuries...

If you've got a good enough doctor, a therapeutic trial of NDT would certainly let you know one way or the other. Your numbers don't look bad necessarily but then again, we all know what in range as far as Testosterone means as well. Doesn't mean optimal for you. And like the others said...

You can probably search the site and find some useful recommendations, but this is a therapeutic forum and you're probably not going to get many responses for cycling to be honest.

Have you considered a lower dose of NDT then adding in T3? That's what I have to do............ like Vince said to keep my FreeT3 higher and T4 from getting too high which messes everything up.

The only real way to know is to continue with your therapeutic trial. Yes your numbers are in range, but clearly the T3 helped you at one point. I personally take NDT +T3 twice daily which has worked very well for me. I had fairly elevated RT3 at the time I started (can't find the labwork so I...

I buy those little Vitamin Shoppe pill cases/carriers and supplement like I always would. Just bring those little cases with me, 1 for each day that I'm gone.

I had always heard that DIM was used, as Dr. Crisler used to say, to bend the estrogen pathways but in no way inhibited the aromatization process. Would definitely be curious to see labs with all other variables constant.

I take NDT twice daily and still take my 1 drop of 2% Lugols every morning.

That same company, Anti-Aging Matters, has both the Deprenyl and the Rapamycin (Rapa-Pro). Have no experience or thoughts on either though.

Are you on T replacement therapy as well? Curious as to how you responded to the DHEA @ 50mg....

What risks were you referring to with Metformin?

I'd cut that way back if not remove completely. Out of curiousity, do you have any thyroid numbers? Would like to see what that's doing as well.

Wow. I personally haven't seen a Total that high with such a low Free. Only way to overcome that super high SHBG is to increase the dose. You're gonna be running a fairly high total, but that's what's needed to push that SHBG down and drive that FreeT up. No AI? That's non-existent estrogen.

From what we see it still seems to be a combination of things, along with the fact that there just aren't many doctors honestly that can truly optimize a guy from all angles. There's so much that goes into each patient and treatment has to be individualized. I still see way too much streamlining...

Any talk of adding a small amount of scrotal cream daily to your protocol if you switch to daily injections? Some guys apparently respond really well to that.

Gotcha. Thanks for letting me know. I"m assuming there was no pricing difference either?

Haven't really encountered this yet at all really, but curious for any of you who switched from using just one of the main esters solely to a blend.........how was the dosing adjusted? From what I've seen the blends seem to be 160mg/40mg/ml Cypionate to Propionate (10 or 5ml bottle). And did you...

I guess my initial question would be is there any data on the use of either? Or did he present any?

Welcome both of you guys!