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If I had seen this prior to starting this thread, I would have posted it. I literally just saw it today. Again, Jay barely says a word during this lecture. The doc does all the talking. Forget about Jay. I'm interested in learning more about this topic and this...
@Simon7 - you state "is not preventing it". You realize that it is an aromataze inhibitor. The simple act of inhibiting something means that it is preventing it. In this case, it is preventing a portion of it from occurring. I also asked for evidence as to how this 20-30 range we were all...
@Simon7 ... careful...
@Cataceous I gave her 20mg. I kid you not, we went at it like rabbits for 3 days and she had this aggressive demeanor about her. After the fact she stated she felt slightly "out of control" and said she wouldn't want to touch the stuff again.
@Vince Carter , I didn't...
@tmaxey1 question for you: Say the guy actually has 200 for E2. What happens if, while having that, he also has T at 3000 (just to exaggerate the example)? Would he still grow tits? Would he have ANY symptoms? Is it at all possible, and I'm speculating here, that he might even feel just fine...
@Cataceous there's high and then there's HIGH. There's a bit of a difference from 50 and 300. Also, there is a big difference between the way males and females react to hormones. I gave my wife a TINY dose of test at one point and the reaction was almost hilarious.
There was a point way back when I started where my Total T measured as +1500 (the test wasn't sensitive enough to go higher) while experimenting with 200mg compounded cream with no AI and my E2 was 50. Now taking 30mg SubQ a day with no AI - zero symptoms.
Tmaxey1, we both have the wife with...
Not as good as I feel now. Not by a long shot. The biggest benefit has been sleep. Fall asleep in minutes and sleep the entire night. I never had that before. I have no idea where my E2 is now. It could be 100+ for all I know.
On a dose of 0.25mg twice a week, my E2 was at 35-40. As per your ideal ranges, that would not be considered 'too low'.
Might I ask in return how you can back up your own claims about 20-30 range as being ideal? What study demonstrates that? I know we have all read it and that's what I once...
@Simon7 there's another issue now that I'm going through the study. Look at how low their testosterone levels were. 13.07 nmol/L is only 376.7 ng/dl. Sure, if their E2 was high and their test was that low perhaps it would cause problems. What is their test was at 1500 ng/dl? What then...
@Simon7 you are indeed correct. That study simply won't do from an evidence perspective. I didn't see the dosage they were giving the rats and, I agree, the dose is beyond ridiculous.
The question remains - is it at least 'possible' that even trace amounts of the stuff can be detrimental...
I feel that there are some conspiracy theorists here. I mention that AI's are toxic to biological systems (and I said that because the majority of studies have been done on rats so I specifically avoided saying 'humans'), and because someone else online used the same phrase you have concluded...
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