organix419
New Member
This is m y first time posting to this board and I first just want to say how happy I am that there is a forum to discuss men's hormonal health issues.
I was diagnosed with MS about 8 years ago (now 37 yrs old). I had a relapsing-remitting form of the disease and temorarily lost vision in my R eye (although it had mostly recovered years ago, it has not fully regained function). I was prescribed interferon which is an evil drug. Needless to say, I quit after a couple years and focused instead on healthy living. I have always been an avid exerciser and my diet has been relatively clean. I am pretty athletic at 174 lb and 6' tall.
Fast forward to the present day... I have been slowly losing the ability to walk with normal gait for more than a mile. My L leg has atrophied slightly and my L hand grip is weakened. The disease, as it commonly does, has moved into what is most likely a secondary-progressive form whereby disability can become more permanent. I can no longer perform high-endurance type exercises such as weighted jump rope and jiu jitsu sparring due to weakness in my L leg and a severe foot drop that can occur (overall neurological fatigue). Interestingly, one day can be better or worse than the next so I know that there is room to improve my condition. Thank G-d that I can still strength train with weights.
I went to a neurologist and the treatment that he suggested is a dangerous immunosupressive that can cause infection of the brain by a dormant virus. I was not too happy with this option and began to think that testosterone could be a useful therapy due to it's anabolic nature. Lo and behold, there were some Phase II trials which showed that testosterone can actually improve the condition of patients with MS . It acts as a neuroprotective agent and can regrow grey matter in the brain over time.
I have since visited a wellness doc who has put me on 100 mg of test cyp/week. I did my first injection and in a little more than 2 hours I began to feel all of my neuropathies disappear. I felt amazing and my strength returned although my skin felt slightly warm (however wife couldn't detect any warmth and color was ok). During the day of my injection, I actually felt as if I could practice jiu jitsu again as my gait, leg strength and grip strength were normal. All of my MS balance related issues were gone too. I was 85-90% MS free for about 2 days but then symptoms started to return on the 3rd day. The symptoms crept back enough that I did a 2nd 100 mg injection on the 5th day rather than the 7th. Same effect... MS was gone for about 2 days and I felt normal again. I am attributing this to peak serum levels building in the blood and testosterone's anti-inflammatory effect on the neurological system.
Seeing that I can essentially 'cure' my MS with testosterone injections, I began to wonder if I should incorporate other AAS such as nandrolone, which has been shown to have even stronger anti-inflammatory properties. I realize that this is a life-long decision and that there are risks such as future cardiological health. I am trying to keep my dosages and side-effects to a minimum but am looking to relieve the condition of my disease. I have 3 young daughters to take care of and I want to continue to provide for them as well as walk them down the wedding isle one day. I would gladly trade in a decade of my life to lead a normal functional one again.
How would you recommend I dose my testosterone? Should I use 40 mg EOD to keep my serum levels more constant? Would it be wise to add 100-200 mg of nandrolone/week? Would supraphysiological dosages of 200-250 mg/wk of test cyp fgor the rest of my life be terrible for my health or at least any worse than having a progressive form of MS (I realize that this last question only I can really answer)?
Please understand that I take many supplements and have tried many different avenues to cure this disease with little result (diet, accupuncture, massage, meditation, etc). Right now, I am focusing mainly on iyegar yoga and testosterone however I continue to meditate and take care of the nervous system. I also continue to strength train which is still a great benefit for me although endurance training is out.
For whatever it is worth, I also take 25 mg of DHEA eod and no HCG (as I do not want any more kids). I take a handful of other supplements as well.
Thank you for all of your help...
I was diagnosed with MS about 8 years ago (now 37 yrs old). I had a relapsing-remitting form of the disease and temorarily lost vision in my R eye (although it had mostly recovered years ago, it has not fully regained function). I was prescribed interferon which is an evil drug. Needless to say, I quit after a couple years and focused instead on healthy living. I have always been an avid exerciser and my diet has been relatively clean. I am pretty athletic at 174 lb and 6' tall.
Fast forward to the present day... I have been slowly losing the ability to walk with normal gait for more than a mile. My L leg has atrophied slightly and my L hand grip is weakened. The disease, as it commonly does, has moved into what is most likely a secondary-progressive form whereby disability can become more permanent. I can no longer perform high-endurance type exercises such as weighted jump rope and jiu jitsu sparring due to weakness in my L leg and a severe foot drop that can occur (overall neurological fatigue). Interestingly, one day can be better or worse than the next so I know that there is room to improve my condition. Thank G-d that I can still strength train with weights.
I went to a neurologist and the treatment that he suggested is a dangerous immunosupressive that can cause infection of the brain by a dormant virus. I was not too happy with this option and began to think that testosterone could be a useful therapy due to it's anabolic nature. Lo and behold, there were some Phase II trials which showed that testosterone can actually improve the condition of patients with MS . It acts as a neuroprotective agent and can regrow grey matter in the brain over time.
I have since visited a wellness doc who has put me on 100 mg of test cyp/week. I did my first injection and in a little more than 2 hours I began to feel all of my neuropathies disappear. I felt amazing and my strength returned although my skin felt slightly warm (however wife couldn't detect any warmth and color was ok). During the day of my injection, I actually felt as if I could practice jiu jitsu again as my gait, leg strength and grip strength were normal. All of my MS balance related issues were gone too. I was 85-90% MS free for about 2 days but then symptoms started to return on the 3rd day. The symptoms crept back enough that I did a 2nd 100 mg injection on the 5th day rather than the 7th. Same effect... MS was gone for about 2 days and I felt normal again. I am attributing this to peak serum levels building in the blood and testosterone's anti-inflammatory effect on the neurological system.
Seeing that I can essentially 'cure' my MS with testosterone injections, I began to wonder if I should incorporate other AAS such as nandrolone, which has been shown to have even stronger anti-inflammatory properties. I realize that this is a life-long decision and that there are risks such as future cardiological health. I am trying to keep my dosages and side-effects to a minimum but am looking to relieve the condition of my disease. I have 3 young daughters to take care of and I want to continue to provide for them as well as walk them down the wedding isle one day. I would gladly trade in a decade of my life to lead a normal functional one again.
How would you recommend I dose my testosterone? Should I use 40 mg EOD to keep my serum levels more constant? Would it be wise to add 100-200 mg of nandrolone/week? Would supraphysiological dosages of 200-250 mg/wk of test cyp fgor the rest of my life be terrible for my health or at least any worse than having a progressive form of MS (I realize that this last question only I can really answer)?
Please understand that I take many supplements and have tried many different avenues to cure this disease with little result (diet, accupuncture, massage, meditation, etc). Right now, I am focusing mainly on iyegar yoga and testosterone however I continue to meditate and take care of the nervous system. I also continue to strength train which is still a great benefit for me although endurance training is out.
For whatever it is worth, I also take 25 mg of DHEA eod and no HCG (as I do not want any more kids). I take a handful of other supplements as well.
Thank you for all of your help...
