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MrWrldWide

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Hello all,

Long-time lurker here - first time poster. I'm going to try to keep this short and sweet: Empower and Hallandale have stopped compounding FSH due to the same regulations that stopped HCG. But, I'm desperate to continue my FSH injections to see if I can regain my fertility. Otherwise, my last option is going to be a HIPTA restart, which I do NOT/NOT want to do. But, will if I must. I'm a long-time Defy customer.

Little background/context: 39 YO male on TRT for almost 5 years. Secondary hypogonadism and started TRT at 35 YOA due to absolutely abysmal T numbers. Prior to starting TRT, had two children in my 20s without any issues. Due to my desire to maintain my fertility, also did HCG in tandem with the T, almost from the beginning (approx. 90 days after starting on T, I introduced the HCG and have been on it ever since). Have had my protocol dialed into optimal numbers for quite some time. I inject roughly 75mg of T twice a week, along with roughly 300iu of HCG twice per week, which keeps all of my numbers at the optimal end of the scale. The only number that runs a little high is my sensitive estradiol, which is routinely around 40-42. However, I've never suffered any apparent issues from this E number, haven't felt any symptoms, so I've just left it alone as far as an AI is concerned.

In late 2020, missus and I started trying to conceive. After 8 mos without any luck, sought out the assistance of a fertility doc. Had a semen analysis, and was stunned to learn my sperm count was at ZERO. I thought the HCG had been preserving my fertility, and was shocked that I was wrong. I've since learned that this does happen to a percentage of men on TRT. Did multiple consultations with Defy over the past couple of months. Increased HCG did nothing. Then added in some FSH in the Fall. I've finished 90 days of that, but from reading on these forums, I want to keep going with it for at least 6 most to see if I can get my swimmers going again - there's at least one gent on here I read about in a very similar circumstance, and he successfully conceived after 6 mos of FSH supplementation.

HOWEVER, thanks to our wonderful Federal bureaucracy, FSH is not being compounded anymore, apparently. Defy will write me a script - but, for manufacturer FSH (like Menopur or Golan-F) from a pharmacy, I'm looking at QUADRUPLE the price. It would be worth it if we end up conceiving in the end - but, it's a staggering amount on a gamble.

Can anyone recommend ANY possible other sources of quality, compounded FSH???

Thanks so much.
 
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Nelson Vergel

Founder, ExcelMale.com

Name brand FSH is super expensive and not covered by insurance.

You may want to try TRT plus HCG (500 IU every other day) or Clomiphene.
 

MrWrldWide

New Member
Thanks for the reply, Nelson. I did the HCG 500IU every other day for about 4 mos - that was our first try. While it def elevated my T and E, after 4 mos, I got another zero sperm count test. That's when we decided to introduce the FSH.

I have another sperm analysis scheduled in about 10 days. I'm hoping the results of 90 days of FSH at least took me from the zero to the low count column. If it did, then I'll probably have no choice but to continue on with the insanely-priced FSH, as I would still greatly prefer it to the grueling HPTA restart process.

But, if I can find a source of quality, compounded FSH elsewhere, it would be al life saver. Even if overseas. Would none of the compounding pharmacies in the U.S. potentially have leftover, already produced FSH sitting in storage? I was thinking to call a couple tomorrow....
 

Cataceous

Super Moderator
You used to be able to get hMG from ReliableRx, but they're not listing it at the moment. I see that Steroidify.com has it, with the least expensive being Humog at $52 for 150 IU. They seem reliable, but international shipping can be a little slow.

Though grueling in a different way, it's possible to restart your pituitary without stopping TRT/hCG. You just need gonadorelin and enclomiphene. Almost certainly it's much less expensive to make your own FSH this way than to pay for a name brand. However, this technique is more experimental, so no guarantee of success.
 

MrWrldWide

New Member
Thank you so much, Cataceous. I spent the whole night networking a bit and on the "inter-webs" and believe I've found a reliable source for some HMG. A little different than what I was looking for originally, but think it will do the job I'm trying to get done. That price sounds right - I found 75IU for $24 - am doing a small test purchase just to ensure quality. If all is good, then I'll stock up to make sure I've got enough to get mama to her desired state of pregnancy lol. Thank you!
 

Gman86

Member
Thank you so much, Cataceous. I spent the whole night networking a bit and on the "inter-webs" and believe I've found a reliable source for some HMG. A little different than what I was looking for originally, but think it will do the job I'm trying to get done. That price sounds right - I found 75IU for $24 - am doing a small test purchase just to ensure quality. If all is good, then I'll stock up to make sure I've got enough to get mama to her desired state of pregnancy lol. Thank you!

Do u mind sharing where ur ordering it from?
 

Arcane

Member
You used to be able to get hMG from ReliableRx, but they're not listing it at the moment. I see that Steroidify.com has it, with the least expensive being Humog at $52 for 150 IU. They seem reliable, but international shipping can be a little slow.

Though grueling in a different way, it's possible to restart your pituitary without stopping TRT/hCG. You just need gonadorelin and enclomiphene. Almost certainly it's much less expensive to make your own FSH this way than to pay for a name brand. However, this technique is more experimental, so no guarantee of success.
Is steroidify legal? Never heard of this site
 

Cataceous

Super Moderator
Is steroidify legal? ...
The organization or the purchase process? Regarding the process: First, for legality a valid prescription is needed. According to the FDA, "In most circumstances, it is illegal for individuals to import drugs into the United States for personal use." If you read further it appears that they're referring to drugs they haven't approved. Sites such as AllDayChemist and Steroidify offer a range of drugs, some of which may be approved in the U.S. This means the answer is, it depends.
 

cosmoen

New Member
Hello all,

Long-time lurker here - first time poster. I'm going to try to keep this short and sweet: Empower and Hallandale have stopped compounding FSH due to the same regulations that stopped HCG. But, I'm desperate to continue my FSH injections to see if I can regain my fertility. Otherwise, my last option is going to be a HIPTA restart, which I do NOT/NOT want to do. But, will if I must. I'm a long-time Defy customer.

Little background/context: 39 YO male on TRT for almost 5 years. Secondary hypogonadism and started TRT at 35 YOA due to absolutely abysmal T numbers. Prior to starting TRT, had two children in my 20s without any issues. Due to my desire to maintain my fertility, also did HCG in tandem with the T, almost from the beginning (approx. 90 days after starting on T, I introduced the HCG and have been on it ever since). Have had my protocol dialed into optimal numbers for quite some time. I inject roughly 75mg of T twice a week, along with roughly 300iu of HCG twice per week, which keeps all of my numbers at the optimal end of the scale. The only number that runs a little high is my sensitive estradiol, which is routinely around 40-42. However, I've never suffered any apparent issues from this E number, haven't felt any symptoms, so I've just left it alone as far as an AI is concerned.

In late 2020, missus and I started trying to conceive. After 8 mos without any luck, sought out the assistance of a fertility doc. Had a semen analysis, and was stunned to learn my sperm count was at ZERO. I thought the HCG had been preserving my fertility, and was shocked that I was wrong. I've since learned that this does happen to a percentage of men on TRT. Did multiple consultations with Defy over the past couple of months. Increased HCG did nothing. Then added in some FSH in the Fall. I've finished 90 days of that, but from reading on these forums, I want to keep going with it for at least 6 most to see if I can get my swimmers going again - there's at least one gent on here I read about in a very similar circumstance, and he successfully conceived after 6 mos of FSH supplementation.

HOWEVER, thanks to our wonderful Federal bureaucracy, FSH is not being compounded anymore, apparently. Defy will write me a script - but, for manufacturer FSH (like Menopur or Golan-F) from a pharmacy, I'm looking at QUADRUPLE the price. It would be worth it if we end up conceiving in the end - but, it's a staggering amount on a gamble.

Can anyone recommend ANY possible other sources of quality, compounded FSH???

Thanks so much.

What is your FSH/HMG dosage and frequency? Sent you a PM to share my personal source as well and wanted to get your experience on yours
 

cosmoen

New Member
Why send private messages when you can help others find this expensive product ? Please share in here.
SwissChem. The reason is because I just started using their product for 2 weeks but cannot back up results yet. I have previously been on Defy FSH for 1+ year, and then stopped for 1-2 months due to the FDA ban.

I am planning to get a semen analysis done in a few weeks to confirm.
 
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