I simplified my Nitric Oxide stack!

#61
Vince,
I tried it yesterday 2 times. First time, putting them in a cup of water and mix them put. It tastes really sour.

Second try with a cup of milk.

I don't know what kind of liquid you mix it with to reduce the sourness or you really like sour drink?
I mix my NO stack with V8 splash about 4 oz its still sour but much better IMO. I have also tried gatorade and grapefruit juice it works but not as good as the V8.
 
#63
I mix my NO stack with V8 splash about 4 oz its still sour but much better IMO. I have also tried gatorade and grapefruit juice it works but not as good as the V8.
This is something I may have to try out.
How much of the stack do you put in there so a bottom of V8 can be used for a couple of days. Say, you get a sip of it each time. i think it would be a much easier way to manage it.
 
#64
Vince, I've been using this stack, and just got some Berkley test strips. Surprised to find that an hour after consuming, still between the low and depleted. Wondering, do you have a way of measuring the efficiency of this ?
 
#65
Ive heard, never used them, that the strips are unreliable, and I've heard people having to take huge doses of whatever beet it Pom, beet root juice, or the core NO ingredients in the stack to get those strips to show anything.
 
Thread starter #66
Vince, I've been using this stack, and just got some Berkley test strips. Surprised to find that an hour after consuming, still between the low and depleted. Wondering, do you have a way of measuring the efficiency of this ?
The test that I'm looking at is ADMA lab test.
[h=2]ADMA/SDMA - Cleveland HeartLab, Inc.[/b]
www.clevelandheartlab.com/tests/adma-sdma
ADMA (asymmetric dimethylarginine) and SDMA (symmetric dimethylarginine), its structural isomer, are metabolites of L-arginine, an amino acid that is catalyzed to L-citrulline and NO by nitric oxide synthase (NOS). Both ADMA and SDMA have distinct pathophysiologies and manifestations. ADMA is a competitive inhibitor of NOS thereby reducing NO ...
 
#67
Hi Vince, I just started a similar stack to you. Thanks for the bulksupplements recommendation btw, saved quite a bit of money ordering in bulk compared to ordering smaller containers on Iherb.

Do you find the stack has an acute effect or cumulative?

Just started a stack of(twice a day):

Cirtruline malate 2:1: 4g (Quite enjoy the taste actually, bit like a strong lemonade)
L-Norvaline: 400mg
Pycnogenol: 100mg
Ubiquinol: 100mg

I do have cialis on hand but since I'm 30 I rather keep that for emergency's or later on then start taking it on a daily basis now.

Thanks!
 
Thread starter #68
For me it was cumulative, I did notice the improvements in my work out pretty quickly. It did take about 3 months before I actually saw the difference in my ADMA lab ranges, all my levels are good now. My ADMA lab ranges do not improve with just taking Cialis or Viagra. I really needed my nitric oxide stack to improve my levels.
 
#69
I use a similar NO stack and thinking of adding Cialis to it. For those of you that are using Cialis with their NO stack are you using liquid or pill form? And why did you pick one form over the other.
 
Thread starter #70
I use a similar NO stack and thinking of adding Cialis to it. For those of you that are using Cialis with their NO stack are you using liquid or pill form? And why did you pick one form over the other.
I always used the pill form, for me it's just convenience and great results.
 
#73
Just found this thread. And I don't think this question has been asked, but if so, my apologies. Anyway, can you use this stack or even Gene's stack with a pre-workout supplement like say Hemo Rage or Wreckage from Muscle Tech? Or Jym from Jim Stoppani's supplement line?
 
#75
Why would you ever need to take this plus something that you buy?
I was curious. I haven't used either stack at this time. I know there are some hardcore gym rats who experiment with supplements; tinkering with this and that to find an edge in performance. There are some who say you can't use viagra and cialis at the same time, but I've seen postings on Gene's thread about members who are using both without ramifications.

It was just a question.
 
#76
A lot of us make our own pre-workouts yes, but there would be zero reason to have both a pre-workout and a similar nitric oxide stack like the ones described above.
Make a simple pre-workout, add 2.5-5mg cialis, and you'll have plenty of nitric oxide to get vascular and get great pumps.

I make my own pre-workout to avoid fillers, unknown blends/formulations and the insane amounts of caffeine in those things these days.
 
#77
I was curious. I haven't used either stack at this time. I know there are some hardcore gym rats who experiment with supplements; tinkering with this and that to find an edge in performance. There are some who say you can't use viagra and cialis at the same time, but I've seen postings on Gene's thread about members who are using both without ramifications.

It was just a question.
You can use viagra and cialis together in some cases. If you are young and/or don’t have ED, wouldn’t. I have modified this stack, taking the citruline and arginine combo with either 5 mg or 10 mg in the morning only. When sex is planned, I will take a Cialis 20 mg and viagra 12.5 mid afternoon. Viagra needs an empty stomach, so I dissolve that under the tongue. You don’t need either mid afternoon, but erection quality is way better with this combo. You can have sex without it though. Keep in mind that I am 65 and have been using cialis for about 15 years without problems.

I think the idea is to keep a steady dose of this stack in your system at all times. I find that vascularity and definition are the greatest visual change from it. I train with resistance bands and dumbells, so a pump is pretty easy to get, especially with bands, but the stack definitely helps to a noticeable degree.
 
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