Workouts while on T and Nandrolone?

[masfield]

I'm hoping that Defy will put me on testosterone and Nandrolone during my appointment at the end of the month, for a demyelinating muscle-wasting disease I've got (CIDP) that has wreaked havoc on my (so-called) muscles. Nelson has told me that exercise is going to be a must for me, and I know he's right. Here's the thing, though: I have a small rotator cuff tear in my right shoulder, which I don't plan on getting repaired for various reasons. So, this is going to limit what exercises I can do.

Which brings me to my question: are there workouts that won't involve my right shoulder? I can do dumbbells with my left arm but my right, no way. Any suggestions?

Also, oddly enough, paddle surfing does not much impinge on my right shoulder. So, I will be doing that as often as I can, which depends entirely on the weather and waves. Sometimes I surf 5 days out of seven and other times I won't get in the water for a month and a half. Flat spells, I hate em.

My question: would my surfing sessions count as the kind of exercise that's mandatory while undertaking T and N therapy? It's most aerobic but my arms and legs are worked to a certain degree. I mean, my entire body is exhausted after I get out of the water, for what that's worth.

Anyway ... thanks for any thoughts you might have!

 

[Nelson Vergel]

I am very careful not to injure myself at the gym and have never done so in 35 years. My friends tell me my work outs are for pussies but I pump better than they do with my basic slow and concentric focused movements with moderate weight settings (no free weights here due to my right hand CIDP)





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[masfield]

Thank you, Nelson, for the links!
My question, though, is about the possibility of devising an exercise program that doesn't stress my right shoulder. For instance, I don't think I'll be doing any tricep pull downs ... unless, I guess, I only use my left arm.
I'm worried that, if I do take t and nadrolone, i'll be severely limiting their effectiveness if i can't use my right arm to exercise with. what do you think?
And then my second question is, do you think a session of stand up paddle surfing would be equal to one workout at the gym, more or less?

 

[Vince Carter]

Never having had a tear or other real injury but indeed suffering L and then R shoulder impingement, I know exactly how limited you're going to be, basically takes you out of upper body work. I wouldn't suggest one-sided work, not at all, for obvious reasons. Stick to lower body, machines vs. free weights. But if you're not being treated, repaired or going to undergo some therapy to get well, there's nothing much to be said.

 

[warrior1]

Find a good trainer who can help design a program for you. Strength work is a must, but pain free exercises are key to your progress.

 

[masfield]

i'd certainly undergo treatment and/or therapy, but i'm not going under the knife again if i can help it, until i'm no longer able to surf. then maybe i'll do it. in any event, there are more variables at play here than i'm sure you're interested in. and, the doc says only surgery can correct the tear.

i have read a few reports that suggest if you only workout one side, the other will experience at least some gains due to some sympathetic reaction and/or mechanism, whether you specifically exercise that off side or not. whether this is true or not, i do not know.

i also think i read that nandrolone itself might have some kind of restorative effect on a minor tear. that could be bunkum as well.

warrior 1: a fine idea. i wonder if i can get a scrip for PT. will look into it.

 

[Vince]

When I tore my rotator cuff. I was told by my doctor, the only way to repair was through surgery. Boy was he wrong. I read this book and it really worked. It seemed to simple, it was painful but it works. Shoulder Pain? The Solution & Prevention: Fourth Edition Kindle Edition by John M. Kirsch M.D. (Author)

 

[masfield]

awesome, vince. i knew there had to be a better way than the knife. thanks!

 

[Nelson Vergel]

I agree with Vince Carter. I would concentrate on lower body since those exercises actually affect the entire body. And from what you said before, that is where your worst wasting is.

Exercise videos: Click on the body part you want to exercise

 

[Vince]

I agree with Vince Carter. I would concentrate on lower body since those exercises actually affect the entire body. And from what you said before, that is where your worst wasting is.

Exercise videos: Click on the body part you want to exercise

The simple exercise of hanging on a chin-up bar in pull-up position. Really works. I know it sounds like BS. It's too simple right. It does separate the tendon, muscle and bone for healing. It takes about 2 weeks before you feel any healing. I've torn my right rotator cuff and used this method for healing it. A numbers of years later, I tore my left and it worked again.

 

[masfield]

Thanks, guys. Will stick mainly to legs and you're right, Nelson, that is where 90% of my wasting has taken place.

just plan ol' vince -- think i need to buy the book or should i just hang from the bar for 10 - 15 minutes a day?

 

[Vince]

Thanks, guys. Will stick mainly to legs and you're right, Nelson, that is where 90% of my wasting has taken place.

just plan ol' vince -- think i need to buy the book or should i just hang from the bar for 10 - 15 minutes a day?

https://www.excelmale.com/forum/sho...der-pain-relief-Hanging-for-Healthy-Shoulders

 

[masfield]

thanks for the new thread!