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What is TRT and What is NOT TRT
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<blockquote data-quote="Cataceous" data-source="post: 190735" data-attributes="member: 38109"><p>I like to keep it simple with a couple rules of thumb: If you're injecting enanthate or cypionate once a week then your peak serum testosterone could be around 2.5 to 3 times higher than your trough. With twice-weekly injections the peak is around 50% higher than the trough. Although these are crude estimates they immediately reveal how ridiculous it is to have a trough over 1,000 ng/dL. </p><p></p><p>Just in the last few days I've talked to a couple guys with such measurements and problems with hematocrit, estradiol, etc.[<a href="https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/low-fsh-lh.22139/post-190268" target="_blank">1</a>][<a href="https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/thanks-nelson-vergel-got-20-off-on-blood-labs-would-like-advice-or-feedback-on-results.22160/post-190539" target="_blank">2</a>] But instead of being told to lower their TRT doses they are given AIs and told to donate blood. What are these doctors thinking????</p><p></p><p>In reference to needing periods of lower serum testosterone to avoid high HCT via hepcidin suppression <a href="https://forums.t-nation.com/t/what-benefits-with-different-injection-frequencies/269884/15" target="_blank">you say</a> "<em>All this flies in the face of [the] philosophy to keep your T levels as constant as possible while on TRT. Also why [a] regimen of injections every 2 weeks isn’t quite as nuts as everyone makes it out to be.</em>" The idea I've been promoting is to do it the way nature intended: Make daily peaks and troughs with injections of a propionate/cypionate mixture. With this protocol you can actually use physiological dosing, 3-9 mg of testosterone per day, and attain normal levels of testosterone. This complexity may be unnecessary for most, but for those who can't find the balance point between low- and high-T symptoms it is something that should be investigated.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cataceous, post: 190735, member: 38109"] I like to keep it simple with a couple rules of thumb: If you're injecting enanthate or cypionate once a week then your peak serum testosterone could be around 2.5 to 3 times higher than your trough. With twice-weekly injections the peak is around 50% higher than the trough. Although these are crude estimates they immediately reveal how ridiculous it is to have a trough over 1,000 ng/dL. Just in the last few days I've talked to a couple guys with such measurements and problems with hematocrit, estradiol, etc.[[URL='https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/low-fsh-lh.22139/post-190268']1[/URL]][[URL='https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/thanks-nelson-vergel-got-20-off-on-blood-labs-would-like-advice-or-feedback-on-results.22160/post-190539']2[/URL]] But instead of being told to lower their TRT doses they are given AIs and told to donate blood. What are these doctors thinking???? In reference to needing periods of lower serum testosterone to avoid high HCT via hepcidin suppression [URL='https://forums.t-nation.com/t/what-benefits-with-different-injection-frequencies/269884/15']you say[/URL] "[I]All this flies in the face of [the] philosophy to keep your T levels as constant as possible while on TRT. Also why [a] regimen of injections every 2 weeks isn’t quite as nuts as everyone makes it out to be.[/I]" The idea I've been promoting is to do it the way nature intended: Make daily peaks and troughs with injections of a propionate/cypionate mixture. With this protocol you can actually use physiological dosing, 3-9 mg of testosterone per day, and attain normal levels of testosterone. This complexity may be unnecessary for most, but for those who can't find the balance point between low- and high-T symptoms it is something that should be investigated. [/QUOTE]
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