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Raising ferritin FAST (a how-to, not a question)
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<blockquote data-quote="Blackhawk" data-source="post: 268007" data-attributes="member: 16042"><p>Thanks, I'll ponder this.</p><p></p><p>I was not conflating this stacking effect with high hematocrit with testosterone use, it was a side question. It is interesting to me how you took that. Thanks for the detailed reply.</p><p></p><p>I do live at altitude, and suck on an oxygen concentrator at night to counteract sleep hypoxia. It works extraordinarily well, I pulse ox consistently in the high 90s with O2. No obstructive apnea.</p><p></p><p>OK, so we are going in circles now.</p><p></p><p>You state that taking testosterone alleviates the negative effects of erythrocytosis. But I experience unwanted symptoms from erythrocytosis while taking testosterone. We don't know all details of causation for my case. Testosterone use, altitude sleep hypoxia (Now resolved), are in consideration.</p><p></p><p>I do have cognitive dissonance here with your perspective. It is extraordinarily simple:</p><p></p><p>I get unwanted symptoms from erythrocytosis. I am not comfortable living with them as such, they limit my physical/exercise capacity negatively, and are just uncomfortable. This is repeatable. I experience the symptoms prior to confirmation by blood tests. The symptoms are relieved by phlebotomy, The symptoms are:</p><p></p><p>HTN</p><p>Earlier onset of pounding heart prior to normal with exertion</p><p>Earlier onset of SOB with exertion</p><p>Fatigue and delayed recovery from exercise</p><p>An uncomfortable feeling of fullness in the chest</p><p></p><p>These symptoms do not occur with HCT below 50%, become vague in onset around 52% and definite at 54% and are relieved by phlebotomy.</p><p></p><p>OK, thanks again, I like your theories, but I find something misaligned about them in my own N=1 case. This is my uncertainty. I am not going to argue my points further. Best to you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Blackhawk, post: 268007, member: 16042"] Thanks, I'll ponder this. I was not conflating this stacking effect with high hematocrit with testosterone use, it was a side question. It is interesting to me how you took that. Thanks for the detailed reply. I do live at altitude, and suck on an oxygen concentrator at night to counteract sleep hypoxia. It works extraordinarily well, I pulse ox consistently in the high 90s with O2. No obstructive apnea. OK, so we are going in circles now. You state that taking testosterone alleviates the negative effects of erythrocytosis. But I experience unwanted symptoms from erythrocytosis while taking testosterone. We don't know all details of causation for my case. Testosterone use, altitude sleep hypoxia (Now resolved), are in consideration. I do have cognitive dissonance here with your perspective. It is extraordinarily simple: I get unwanted symptoms from erythrocytosis. I am not comfortable living with them as such, they limit my physical/exercise capacity negatively, and are just uncomfortable. This is repeatable. I experience the symptoms prior to confirmation by blood tests. The symptoms are relieved by phlebotomy, The symptoms are: HTN Earlier onset of pounding heart prior to normal with exertion Earlier onset of SOB with exertion Fatigue and delayed recovery from exercise An uncomfortable feeling of fullness in the chest These symptoms do not occur with HCT below 50%, become vague in onset around 52% and definite at 54% and are relieved by phlebotomy. OK, thanks again, I like your theories, but I find something misaligned about them in my own N=1 case. This is my uncertainty. I am not going to argue my points further. Best to you. [/QUOTE]
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