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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Testosterone Side Effect Management
Raising ferritin FAST (a how-to, not a question)
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<blockquote data-quote="Blackhawk" data-source="post: 267983" data-attributes="member: 16042"><p>While I appreciate the assessment and logic, what I am hearing here is that the idea of no harm from Testosterone therapy (secondary erythrocytosis) comes from the reasoning that no evidence of harm equates as evidence of no harm. These are not the same.</p><p></p><p>I look forward theoretically to the day for clinical documentation of no harm. As with other medical mythbusting, debunking occurs at a glacial pace. I hope you are actually correct, and this becomes clinically proven.</p><p></p><p>And I still would like citations for the statistics and studies referred to in your diatribe. You have not provided a single reference in this regard.</p><p></p><p>I will continue to have phlebotomies when I become symptomatic. I am personally not OK trying to exercise/work out when I experience the symptoms listed above... oh, and some abnormal SOB also occurs with exertions when my HCT is high... And for the record. I have isolated erythrocytosis, I do not have other cythemias. So in my N=1 case, while your logic mostly rings true, and I understand the mechanisms you refer to in terms of physiology accommodating the viscosity, my symptoms indicate to me that the viscosity is actually problematic.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, thanks.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Blackhawk, post: 267983, member: 16042"] While I appreciate the assessment and logic, what I am hearing here is that the idea of no harm from Testosterone therapy (secondary erythrocytosis) comes from the reasoning that no evidence of harm equates as evidence of no harm. These are not the same. I look forward theoretically to the day for clinical documentation of no harm. As with other medical mythbusting, debunking occurs at a glacial pace. I hope you are actually correct, and this becomes clinically proven. And I still would like citations for the statistics and studies referred to in your diatribe. You have not provided a single reference in this regard. I will continue to have phlebotomies when I become symptomatic. I am personally not OK trying to exercise/work out when I experience the symptoms listed above... oh, and some abnormal SOB also occurs with exertions when my HCT is high... And for the record. I have isolated erythrocytosis, I do not have other cythemias. So in my N=1 case, while your logic mostly rings true, and I understand the mechanisms you refer to in terms of physiology accommodating the viscosity, my symptoms indicate to me that the viscosity is actually problematic. Anyway, thanks. [/QUOTE]
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