Irritability and anxiety on Testosterone

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I feel pretty good now that I can sleep and all sports have been canceled for the past 3 months (lowered stress levels).
What all did you do to get your #s up that high, now that you're off of TRT? As we discussed in my post, today... if i can get #s like that without starting TRT, sign me up! Any tips/pointers/advice on how you did it, i'm all ears!
 

fifty

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I don't trust any T numbers unless it's the Testosterone LC/MS and Free Test ultrafiltration test. I don't even know what test that is now on discountedlabs.com

I don't do anything special to get #s that high. I take 5,000 mcg biotin every morning (but not morning of labs) so maybe they're probably not even right. I run 6-8x 100m hills with whatever rest I want about twice a week then go to the gym ~twice a week for 30min. Clean & jerk 5x5 light/medium and some pullups and leave. Otherwise I drink a ton of water (140oz/day), work a desk job right now, and eat pretty clean doing a 24hr fast 1 day per week.
 
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Tman

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Labs 10 months after cessation of TRT in case anyone cares.

T 781 [264-916]
FT 8.9 [6.8-21.5]
SHBG 66.5 [16.5-55.9]
E2 SENSITIVE 23.7 [8-35]
DHT 60 [30-85]
IGF-1 117 [83-233]
LH 7.1 [1.7-8.6]
TSH 2.080 [0.450-4.500]
Hematocrit 47.2 [37.5-51.0]

Last hematocrit was 51.4 in January 2020. My fix for this was nasal strips put very low on my nose at night and 120+ oz of water per day. I had tried $1000 CPAP but 9cent nasal strips are better.

TBH...with those numbers... you probably didn't need to be on TRT, unless you and the doc found very specific symptoms.
 

fifty

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Tried a bottle of Empower Nasal Gel. 1 application per day (10mg total) around 3pm (basically a preworkout supplement). At this dose, bottle lasted 30 days. I also added 150ml red wine at night that month to see if I could boost HDL.

Results 7/31/20:
T 702[264-916]
FT 7.4 [6.8-21.5]
SHBG 54.7 [16.5-55.9]
E2 regular 18.5 [8-35]
DHEA 129.0 [102.6-416.3] {this is always low-ish for me}
LH 6.5 [1.7-8.6]
FSH 3.1 [1.5-12.4]
Hematocrit 46.6 [37.5-51.0] {I continue to drink 100+oz water per day}

HDL 64 [>39] {this is about the same HDL I always have. wine fail?}

Iron 121 [38-169]
TIBC 249 [250-450]
UIBC 128 [111-343]
Iron Saturation 49 [15-55]
Ferritin 170 [30-400]
 

fifty

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Another labs update 9/8/20. Still on Empower nasal gel 1x/day and these labs are at ~week 10 of that:
T 612 [264-916]
FT 11.3 [6.8-21.5]
SHBG 48.1 [16.5-55.9]
E2 sensitive 22.6 [8-35]
DHT 51
Albumin 4.4
 
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madman

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Another labs update 9/8/20. Still on Empower nasal gel 1x/day and these labs are at ~week 10 of that:
T 612 [264-916]
FT 11.3 [6.8-21.5]
SHBG 48.1 [16.5-55.9]

E2 sensitive 22.6 [8-35]
DHT 51


If you are just using pre-workout than once daily may provide benefits but as you know if
the main goal is replacement than to reap the beneficial effects you would need to dose 2-3 times daily and I would prefer 3X/daily.

No point in getting labs done if you are going to keep using an inaccurate testing method for FT.

Seems odd as you very well know this!
 

fifty

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If you are just using pre-workout than once daily may provide benefits but as you know if
the main goal is replacement than to reap the beneficial effects you would need to dose 2-3 times daily and I would prefer 3X/daily.

No point in getting labs done if you are going to keep using an inaccurate testing method for FT.

Seems odd as you very well know this!
I just use tru-t calculator as I have T, SHBG, and Albumin.

I would use it 3x/day but I don't really want to spend $200/mo or worry about applying 3x/day. The cost effective way to do this is just take apart a topi-click. The nasal gel is just 100mg testosterone cream in a different container at 5x the price.
 
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