Is it impossible to get 10ml vials anymore?

GreenMachineX said:

Sorry about the frustration, but I was trying to get the 1mL vials and twice now they've given me 10mL vials. I'm also doing 8mg daily, but would prefer only puncturing a vial about 10 times rather than 100 with the 10mL vial. That doesn't concern you?

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testiculus said:

The 1ml vials are overfilled to account for the waste. I find they usually have 1.1-1.2 ml. For low dose daily, the 1ml vials would be better.

While sterility generally isn't going to be an issue on a 10ml, the stoppers can degrade with a large number of punctures depending on the quality of the stopper rubber and the type of needle being used.

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testiculus said:

The 1ml vials are overfilled to account for the waste. I find they usually have 1.1-1.2 ml. For low dose daily, the 1ml vials would be better.

While sterility generally isn't going to be an issue on a 10ml, the stoppers can degrade with a large number of punctures depending on the quality of the stopper rubber and the type of needle being used.

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BigTex said:

I went through the whole approval process with insurance (again) to get a 10ml vial of test cyp and opened up the box, it was a 1ml vial. That is good for 20 days (8mg/day) So before running out completely I went to the doctor to get a new script and complained. My doctor said he made it clear to CVS that he wanted me to have a 10ml vial. After two weeks of waiting I am out of the last 1ml vials they sent and getting kind of panicked since I ran out yesterday. CVS notified me last night that the prescription was filled. So I jumped in the car today in shorts and a t-shit with the wind blowing and temperatures right at 25 degrees and paid $50 for the prescription at CVS. Got home and found 10, 1ml vials. Do we not have 10ml vials anymore. I can hardly hold these small vials and finding the center to put the needle in is almost impossible. Plus, $50 for 10ml of test cyp is ridiculous. Guess I am going back to buying UG products, it cheaper and no one would ever sell a 1ml vile. Insurance and CVS are making as hard as they can for me to do TRT. Anyone else having this issue?

In the time it took me to get a doctor appointment, get the prescription approved by insurance and filled by CVS, I had already ordered UG products and had them delivered the day before CVS finally got my order filled. Honestly, it been quite a few years since I had to pay that much for test cyp.

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testiculus said:

My insurance used to pay for T cyp. Then they decided to stop paying. In order to continue paying for T cyp my physician would need to appeal, write a letter, and submit multiple test results showing my testosterone is below 250. He said the review boards will rarely accept the hypogonadism diagnosis - despite the fact that it is coming from a world renowned expert on the condition. So I started cash pay for T cyp from a big chain pharmacy. At that time it was cheap, so not a big deal. But then everyone starting increasing their prices on T cyp, so that it's not so cheap any more. At that point I switched to using a compounding pharmacy as it is cheaper than cash pay at the big chain pharmacies.

Despite the laws that limit the practice of medicine to licensed physicians, pharmacists and insurance bureacrats regularly practice medicine. Of course our governement agencies that are supposed to be protecting their constituents are part of the medical cabal that largely pursues maximum revenue extraction instead.

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"pharmacists and insurance bureaucrats regularly practice medicine."

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BadassBlues said:

So, is there a decent source for UG test? If so, please PM me.

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BigTex said:

I agree sterility is not an issue, like the CDC claims it is. Stopper degradation? I guess if you are using a 21g every day, but a 31g makes a very tiny hole, chances are you will use you the same hole if you are going every day. I have never had any issues in degradation of the stoppers. Not even when I used 30ml vials with a 27g over a two year period. Anyway guys, I solved the whole problem with insurance and CVS. I just received 3 vials of TU that are all in 10ml vials dosed at 300mg/ml. The cost less than what big pharma sells TC for and my insurance review board is now out of the picture. Now I can go back to doing 55mgTU/5 days. I will inform my doctor next time I have and appointment.

By the way, my HCT and RBC did go down micro-dosing TC daily. So in my case even 5 day injections cause big changes in the peaks and troughs. Enough to cause a lit of side effects. Daily micro-dosing seemed to eliminate that. Same with the TU, because of the long half-life, micro-dosing every 5 days lowered the big swings enough to cut the side effects. So for me, the ester makes a huge difference in timing.

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testiculus said:

Never had a problem TC, but when I was experimenting with daily HCG I had a stopper degrade to the point that I started getting bits of stopper in the vial. I think it has more to do with low quality rubber being used than anything else.

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BigTex said:

Most likely a quality issue. I did have a stopper issue in a product I got that used
small percent of ethyl oleate as a carrier. The ethyl oleate seemed to degrade rubber pretty quickly. The stoppers looked like they were going to explode outward.

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BigTex said:

I went through the whole approval process with insurance (again) to get a 10ml vial of test cyp and opened up the box, it was a 1ml vial. That is good for 20 days (8mg/day) So before running out completely I went to the doctor to get a new script and complained. My doctor said he made it clear to CVS that he wanted me to have a 10ml vial. After two weeks of waiting I am out of the last 1ml vials they sent and getting kind of panicked since I ran out yesterday. CVS notified me last night that the prescription was filled. So I jumped in the car today in shorts and a t-shit with the wind blowing and temperatures right at 25 degrees and paid $50 for the prescription at CVS. Got home and found 10, 1ml vials. Do we not have 10ml vials anymore. I can hardly hold these small vials and finding the center to put the needle in is almost impossible. Plus, $50 for 10ml of test cyp is ridiculous. Guess I am going back to buying UG products, it cheaper and no one would ever sell a 1ml vile. Insurance and CVS are making as hard as they can for me to do TRT. Anyone else having this issue?

In the time it took me to get a doctor appointment, get the prescription approved by insurance and filled by CVS, I had already ordered UG products and had them delivered the day before CVS finally got my order filled. Honestly, it been quite a few years since I had to pay that much for test cyp.

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testiculus said:

Yeah, the 10ml coupon prices are better than the 1ml prices, but I can't get anyone to fill 10ml other than the compounding pharmacies. Still way more than it used to be. It's about $60 for 10ml including syringes from a compounding pharmacy. More than that coupon, but at least I get a 10ml. The other problem with the coupons is the pricing isn't stable. One day you pay $40, then the next time all the sudden the price is $80. At least with the compounding pharmacies their prices seem to be consistently the same every time.

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