What other non-psychiatry treatments for depression are there?

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Cognitive behavioral therapy is a proven strategy for depression. CBT is one of the go to strategies for depression and is a client based, short term solution that works well with exercise and meditation and wholistic strategies.

My day job is that I am a psychotherapist directing substance abuse programs. I also have had a clinical practice for 20 years and have written some ebooks for my clients that are available on Amazon. CBT Made Simple, one of them, is a quick read that introduces you to the concepts and can get you started right away. Here is a link:

https://www.amazon.com/-/e/B00LRJF0W6

If you can't get relief following these strategies for 6-8 weeks, look for a therapist that specializes in CBT. Medications are a last resort, and if they are used CBT should also be a part of comprehensive treatment. Meds help initially, but if behaviors don't change, diet isn't good and there is no exercise, you won't maintain any progress. The books are easy to read, if you don't want to purchase them, there are over 200 blog posts that have self help strategies that I know will work. I use them with clients, and myself, and they work if you put in the effort.

I am concerned that too many guys on the forums think TRT is a cure for depression, anxiety, and ED. It may be in some cases, but in most changing thinking and behaviors, the essence of CBT, is a better strategy. TRT and some CBT would be the best way to go.
 
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I know exercise and daily maintenance, but is there anything else besides TRT that will assist in doing those tasks?
People become depressed for many different reasons.
Can you control your negative self talk? Can you accept/forgive/get past any trama's in your present or past?
Having someone to talk to someone you look up to and or trust can make all the difference.

I suffered from depression out of the blue no triggers and being a mans man I did not seek help until my depression turned to panic attacks then turned to 24/7 panic requiring an emergency room visit and medication 3 times a day I sat in my chair watching the clock so I could take another pill. It was horrible.
The next 6 months were spend in medical doctors offices testing. Low T(173) was all that was found. My pcp put me on Testim gel and 2 months later I felt a flicker of my normal self.

I also found a Therapist I trusted thru a friends recomendation and discovered the real cause of my depression.
Extreme negative self talk, I wasn't even aware I was doing it over things in my past and present that I could not change and it literally took my sanity.

I don't know your situation however finding someone you trust to talk can not hurt.

hth
 

Nelson Vergel

Founder, ExcelMale.com
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Nelson Vergel

Founder, ExcelMale.com
#6
Cognitive behavioral therapy is a proven strategy for depression. CBT is one of the go to strategies for depression and is a client based, short term solution that works well with exercise and meditation and wholistic strategies.

My day job is that I am a psychotherapist directing substance abuse programs. I also have had a clinical practice for 20 years and have written some ebooks for my clients that are available on Amazon. CBT Made Simple, one of them, is a quick read that introduces you to the concepts and can get you started right away. Here is a link:

https://www.amazon.com/-/e/B00LRJF0W6

If you can't get relief following these strategies for 6-8 weeks, look for a therapist that specializes in CBT. Medications are a last resort, and if they are used CBT should also be a part of comprehensive treatment. Meds help initially, but if behaviors don't change, diet isn't good and there is no exercise, you won't maintain any progress. The books are easy to read, if you don't want to purchase them, there are over 200 blog posts that have self help strategies that I know will work. I use them with clients, and myself, and they work if you put in the effort.

I am concerned that too many guys on the forums think TRT is a cure for depression, anxiety, and ED. It may be in some cases, but in most changing thinking and behaviors, the essence of CBT, is a better strategy. TRT and some CBT would be the best way to go.
We should do a webinar!
 
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I'm hypo-pituitary and all my hormones were low so if your hormone levels are good this may not apply to you. I lived in a state of depression my whole life until I got my thyroid and TRT properly optimised. I never realised I was depressed because this was normal for me. This was a life changer.
 
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I'm hypo-pituitary and all my hormones were low so if your hormone levels are good this may not apply to you. I lived in a state of depression my whole life until I got my thyroid and TRT properly optimised. I never realised I was depressed because this was normal for me. This was a life changer.
My thyroid was fine, just my testosterone was below normal. I still have to talk to my primary doctor once more before we begin TRT. What other hormonal testing is there? And sorry about your depression.
 
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CBT is pretty expensive, though.
Not at all. If you have insurance, a therapist is covered. If you don't have insurance, it is a great self help tool. The goal of CBT is to make the client self sufficient and more capable of coping with their own problems. CBT is designed to be short term with most people showing a marked improvement within 90 days.
 
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My thyroid was fine too.... according to many MD's. But it wasn't and only a hormone specialist was able to diagnose it and treat it. Fine is a big word around here and doesn't mean anything unless you actually have all labs for it.
 
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My thyroid was fine too.... according to many MD's. But it wasn't and only a hormone specialist was able to diagnose it and treat it. Fine is a big word around here and doesn't mean anything unless you actually have all labs for it.
My bloodwork showed normal thyroid results.
 
Thread starter #13
Not at all. If you have insurance, a therapist is covered. If you don't have insurance, it is a great self help tool. The goal of CBT is to make the client self sufficient and more capable of coping with their own problems. CBT is designed to be short term with most people showing a marked improvement within 90 days.
I'll do it as long as it's nothing like talk therapy.
 
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It may very well be less simple than it appears.

What was assessed and what are the numbers? If only TSH, and that number is above 2, your doc may have no clue that you actually do have a thyroid issue.
If you see a hormone specialist, they'll probably treat you regardless in order to get paid.
 
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