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<blockquote data-quote="MrWrldWide" data-source="post: 215703" data-attributes="member: 43214"><p>Sorry Nelson - wasn't sure if I could share the source here. I ordered HMG via napsgear.org. It's a reputable site (many, many reviews online) where guys get gear for steroid cycles. Not my interest, but they also sell "ancillaries" and PCT products, which include HCG and HMG. For those of us who have prescriptions for medications, but nowhere to fill them (at a decent price, at least), I would call it a quasi-legal alternative until whoever in the FDA comes to their senses. </p><p></p><p>I ordered the HMG from Cadila Pharmacies in India, which as best as I can tell, is a subsidiary of Bayer. Have only been taking their product for a week, so cannot report on results yet. Can say, however, that I have read about and talked to others who had good results with their product. I intend to continue taking their HMG product at 75iu 3x/week. My understanding is that HMG has 75iu of FSH and 75iu of HCG - so this should suffice the same level of FSH I was taking before. </p><p></p><p>On that note, I'm happy to announce that I got my SA results back. Just as a reminder, after two azoospermic SA results, I did a protocol of HCG and FSH for 90 days, without reducing my TRT dose. Just ended that protocol in mid-December. Did an SA last week, and got the results today: </p><p></p><p>Total Motility: 61% >38</p><p>Forward Progression: 78% >32</p><p>Concentration: 2.3m/ml >14.9m</p><p>Total Count: 5.5m >38.9m</p><p></p><p>So, went from zero sperm, to low sperm count; which in my opinion, is awesome! It means the medication is doing something. I mentioned and commented on another thread - I've read of a couple of instances where the HCG+HMG protocol may take up to 6-7 mos to be back into "normal" ranges. And, my doc pointed out that the motility and forward progression numbers are good, as at the least the sperm I'm producing appear to motile and healthy. </p><p></p><p>So, starting last week, I'm doing a protocol of HCG 500iu HCG 2x/week, HMG 75iu 3x/week, and my typical TRT does of 80mg T 2x/week. Will test again sometime in likely April, and continue trying my best to give mama what she's looking for in the meantime LOL.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MrWrldWide, post: 215703, member: 43214"] Sorry Nelson - wasn't sure if I could share the source here. I ordered HMG via napsgear.org. It's a reputable site (many, many reviews online) where guys get gear for steroid cycles. Not my interest, but they also sell "ancillaries" and PCT products, which include HCG and HMG. For those of us who have prescriptions for medications, but nowhere to fill them (at a decent price, at least), I would call it a quasi-legal alternative until whoever in the FDA comes to their senses. I ordered the HMG from Cadila Pharmacies in India, which as best as I can tell, is a subsidiary of Bayer. Have only been taking their product for a week, so cannot report on results yet. Can say, however, that I have read about and talked to others who had good results with their product. I intend to continue taking their HMG product at 75iu 3x/week. My understanding is that HMG has 75iu of FSH and 75iu of HCG - so this should suffice the same level of FSH I was taking before. On that note, I'm happy to announce that I got my SA results back. Just as a reminder, after two azoospermic SA results, I did a protocol of HCG and FSH for 90 days, without reducing my TRT dose. Just ended that protocol in mid-December. Did an SA last week, and got the results today: Total Motility: 61% >38 Forward Progression: 78% >32 Concentration: 2.3m/ml >14.9m Total Count: 5.5m >38.9m So, went from zero sperm, to low sperm count; which in my opinion, is awesome! It means the medication is doing something. I mentioned and commented on another thread - I've read of a couple of instances where the HCG+HMG protocol may take up to 6-7 mos to be back into "normal" ranges. And, my doc pointed out that the motility and forward progression numbers are good, as at the least the sperm I'm producing appear to motile and healthy. So, starting last week, I'm doing a protocol of HCG 500iu HCG 2x/week, HMG 75iu 3x/week, and my typical TRT does of 80mg T 2x/week. Will test again sometime in likely April, and continue trying my best to give mama what she's looking for in the meantime LOL. [/QUOTE]
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