Jekyll900sl
New Member
Hi forum members,
I have combed through many threads and cannot find the help I feel I need. So I figured, I'd just ask for the help.
Long story short; in the spring of 2016, my Testosterone drop by about half. I suffered from overtraining syndrome (OTS) from what I researched. My HPA axis was all messed up and I felt awful. I stopped all exercise and was very depressed and slept 10hrs plus per day. I went to many specialist to find out how I could stop the suffering I was experiencing. The only lab that changed over this time was my Testosterone. So I thought that was the answer. I needed to start hormone therapy. I put what little energy I had into finding a doctor that would be willing to see if this was what I needed to feel better. It took a year to find a clinic that would start me on TRT. They just started me on a cookie cutter program and had me taking way too much testosterone per week. I gained at least 20lbs in the first few months. I think it took 3 months before I felt like I could exercise and not feel awful afterwards. So I guess it worked, but it did not help with the other issues I was having; ED and no sex drive. (This wasn't a slow progression, so not age related. This happened in 3 months)
After my PCP agreed to Rx testosterone to me, I started to play with the dosage and I dropped the AI completely from my protocol. I thought it was keeping me from gaining more water weight, but it made me feel super depressed.
Fast forward to now. I cannot lose weight and I am still having ED and libido issues. I have been doing the 8/16 fast and haven't lost any weight. I think I am eating around 2000-2500 Kcal a day!! My weight does go up and down throughout the week but always returns to 183lbs. Is it the dose or timing of my shot?? I am using boner pills and they work mostly, but sex does not feel the way it used to. I don't have much desire and my unit feels numb sometimes..
Here is my current protocol:
Testosterone cypionate in GSO-->0.3mL (60mg) of 5mL/200mg dose twice a week (incase my math is incorrect)
HcG--> 60 units twice a week. 12,000 IU vial.
No AI, when I have used it, it caused depression.
*I am going to try a compounded cream and have an Rx in at Empower. I think my body would like to get back to the circadian rhythm it had. I also read it might help with libido because of DHT.
I am 44 and weigh 183lbs. I was an endurance athlete (bike, run, nordic ski) and was able to train 20 hours per week. That included weight training. I also used to be 165lbs. I am back to doing most things I used to do but not to the level I used to. I feel good when I lift weights but find it boring and hard to stick with. I really like Crossfit but I can never practice the lifts I want to master because of limited time outside of classes. I have many excuses because I don't have the energy I used to. I will be going to grad school shortly and will have to rely on Crossfit classes to stay fit.
Lastly, does anyone know of a doctor as knowledgeable as Dr. Rand McClain at Regenerative Sports and Medicine in SoCal. I cannot afford $800 per session or I would be consulting him.
I will attach the spreadsheet in which I compiled all labs I have had.
Thanks in advance for the help. I will not be offended, I wear big boy pants, so let the comments fly (talking to you Madman) I will answer questions about anything I missed. I tried to give as much information as I could.
I have combed through many threads and cannot find the help I feel I need. So I figured, I'd just ask for the help.
Long story short; in the spring of 2016, my Testosterone drop by about half. I suffered from overtraining syndrome (OTS) from what I researched. My HPA axis was all messed up and I felt awful. I stopped all exercise and was very depressed and slept 10hrs plus per day. I went to many specialist to find out how I could stop the suffering I was experiencing. The only lab that changed over this time was my Testosterone. So I thought that was the answer. I needed to start hormone therapy. I put what little energy I had into finding a doctor that would be willing to see if this was what I needed to feel better. It took a year to find a clinic that would start me on TRT. They just started me on a cookie cutter program and had me taking way too much testosterone per week. I gained at least 20lbs in the first few months. I think it took 3 months before I felt like I could exercise and not feel awful afterwards. So I guess it worked, but it did not help with the other issues I was having; ED and no sex drive. (This wasn't a slow progression, so not age related. This happened in 3 months)
After my PCP agreed to Rx testosterone to me, I started to play with the dosage and I dropped the AI completely from my protocol. I thought it was keeping me from gaining more water weight, but it made me feel super depressed.
Fast forward to now. I cannot lose weight and I am still having ED and libido issues. I have been doing the 8/16 fast and haven't lost any weight. I think I am eating around 2000-2500 Kcal a day!! My weight does go up and down throughout the week but always returns to 183lbs. Is it the dose or timing of my shot?? I am using boner pills and they work mostly, but sex does not feel the way it used to. I don't have much desire and my unit feels numb sometimes..
Here is my current protocol:
Testosterone cypionate in GSO-->0.3mL (60mg) of 5mL/200mg dose twice a week (incase my math is incorrect)
HcG--> 60 units twice a week. 12,000 IU vial.
No AI, when I have used it, it caused depression.
*I am going to try a compounded cream and have an Rx in at Empower. I think my body would like to get back to the circadian rhythm it had. I also read it might help with libido because of DHT.
I am 44 and weigh 183lbs. I was an endurance athlete (bike, run, nordic ski) and was able to train 20 hours per week. That included weight training. I also used to be 165lbs. I am back to doing most things I used to do but not to the level I used to. I feel good when I lift weights but find it boring and hard to stick with. I really like Crossfit but I can never practice the lifts I want to master because of limited time outside of classes. I have many excuses because I don't have the energy I used to. I will be going to grad school shortly and will have to rely on Crossfit classes to stay fit.
Lastly, does anyone know of a doctor as knowledgeable as Dr. Rand McClain at Regenerative Sports and Medicine in SoCal. I cannot afford $800 per session or I would be consulting him.
I will attach the spreadsheet in which I compiled all labs I have had.
Thanks in advance for the help. I will not be offended, I wear big boy pants, so let the comments fly (talking to you Madman) I will answer questions about anything I missed. I tried to give as much information as I could.
