Exogenous HGH will shut you down briefly (for a day or two), however for a back issue you would likely want systemic HGH (instead of the local injections BigTex is now doing), so secretagouges could work which would stimulate your own production. Having had back issues myself, time is a big healer, as is avoiding things that re-aggravate it. It took several years for my most serious back injury to fully heal symptom-wise.
Actually HGH only blunts natural GH pulses for 24 hours, dose dependent. If you are concerned over that then add a GHRP. The pituitary pulses of GH are controlled by a negative feed back loop controlled by somatostatin, also known as growth hormone-inhibiting hormone. As IGF-1 levels start to rise, somatostatin is released blunting the pituitary release of GH. GHRP's will keep somatostatin levels down, thus keeping your normal GH pulses going. My question is how much IGF-1 is necessary? Will secretagogues raise IGF-1 enough? I know HGH absolutely will.
back issues are usually fairly complex in my experience. sometimes its not the back. sometimes its pure stress. what I found its rarely spinal issues causing the pain. but time definitely helps. the complex part is to recognize if its a real injury which requires some caution or not. what I learned in my case that most back pain, even if severe, is fairly benign and be ignored as much as possible. for me usually the harder I workout through it the faster it goes, which is sort of paradoxical.
My understanding of the need/benefit for IA is that injecting into the synovial fluid achieves a far higher local peak concentration of GH (and hence saturation of local receptors) than could be achieved if systemic GH had to seep into the synovial fluid. That said, acromegaly and joint crowding from chronic high-dose systemic GH is certainly a thing ( and what started Dr. Dunn down this path) but it comes with insulin resistance, unwanted joint growth in healthy joints, carpal tunnel, a much longer timeline, and all the other problems that come from excessive GH.
my biggest pain point in regards to back at the gym is getting free weight into position. I utilize 70lbs for some exercises like bench press, and just getting those in position can be rough. also at my gym here those weight are at the bottom and you really have to get into a weird position to get them up. usually lifting 1 weight from the floor into 1 arm puts me into a tilted position. thats where my current pain started
I was sitting here thinking that much of the regenerative and restorative work is done by IGF-1. IGF-1 is produced in the liver and production is simulated by rising GH levels. So HGH is going to have to go systemic and enter the blood stream in order for the liver to produce IGF-1. So while GH concentrations might be higher in the synovial fluid, it it going to have to enter the blood stream and go systemic before the resining levels can stimulate the liver to make IGF-1?
It sounds like you're using dumbbells which were a total no-go for me for at least a year for this exact reason. I have a device that allows me to take them off a rack just like a barbell, but even then I had to be very careful, so I strictly used barbells and pretty much still do to keep the loading of the spine fairly even.
If your improvement continues (which I certainly hope and pray it does!) then that would seem to contradict the rodent studies since I seem to remember you tried system GH without success?
The Smith machine may be just as effective and not add a weird load to the spine.
Yea, this is an act of desperation. I have always done HGH at low doses 2iu. I did notice that since I quit the osteoarthritis has gotten worse. I have no idea if that has anything at all to do with it. I have been sticking with the IA injections for both the shoulder and knee.
yep dumbbells...i think i have to stop using them for chest press type exercises and keep them only for lighter weights like biceps etc. being pulled by 70lbs to one side, especially at my height of 6.3 seems like a bad idea....
