I have been on TRT for approx. 13 months. The first 6 months I struggled through with a local doctor and then switched to Defy. I am happy with their services but really have never felt all that great on TRT. Just wondering if anyone has had success with a PCT while NOT taking an AI? I have no problem with continuing with TRT if need be, but would like to try a restart at least once, if I would've knew what I do now, thanks to this site, I would've tried it first but my Dr never offered it. My main reason for wanting to discontinue is due to my joint pain that I never had prior to TRT. I have had my E2 levels (sensitive) as low as 11 and high as 87 and still experience pain to the point where I cant sleep well or workout, never took an AI other than 1 time, and it made me feel like crap. I know at the age of 45 my chances of success are prob 50% or less in successful restart. Thanks as always