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Thanks for the extensive write up and links, I know this took some time and it's appreciated. I'll check out the videos after I'm done with work, DMing you for protocol shortly.

How is it working out for you and what's your protocol like? I was hesitant about it so I stuck with testosterone enanthate for now. I was a little concerned about the negative effects of 19 nors on erections and libido, as well as the brain and mood disturbances, as I have no experience with...

Oh for sure. I realize now I made it sound like he was pushing drugs which he was not. He was offering it as an alternative base alongside low dose testosterone to prevent an excess of aromatase. Mike is the man.

He literally offered me deca out of nowhere last week, I didn't even bring it up lol.

So I totally forgot about this conversation the last few weeks. I have been using empower test e (ba only) for a few months. Instead of opening a new vial, I was like "oh I have an open vial of cyp, let me finish this first." By the next day i was feeling a weird anxiety that has persisted...

I saw this as well. I appreciate them trying to update the site, but there was really nothing wrong with it before as long as you knew it's use and limitations. The new version seems to raise more questions than answers. Sometimes simpler is better.

I was going to post this after a certain reply in this thread but didn't want to stir the pot too much lol

I know a lot of men on TRT in real life. And every one takes one shot a week in the ballpark of 100mg and feels great. One guy splits it up into twice a week and that's only because I suggested it because he said he felt tired the last day or two. They don't even think about it unless it's...

Thanks for taking the time to write this up, I appreciate the explanation.

This makes complete sense in someone with natural function, but I'm hoping you can explain how this works in someone using exogenous hormones so that I can understand it better, because I'm a little confused. Wouldn't this just depend on when you measured it? Lets say 100mg of T was...

I wonder if the fact that they said "or" their e2 was above 35 made a difference in how much they used. It's possible some guys felt fine and we're placed on it anyway because of the number. Regardless, that's a huge amount of the study population.

Individual response strikes again. I've definitely seen people get no response, some response, or a high response based on labs. One thing I haven't really seen is HCG "backfill" by boosting the pregenolone/dhea levels as strongly as people claim it does...or at all, really. It may, but I've...

I would imagine it probably has to do with whether one was primary/secondary hypo as well when they started? When I added in 500iu of HCG twice per week, my trough level on my protocol at the time increased from 950 to 1265, and E2 from 34 to 66 with no other changes. I'm pretty sensitive to...

This whole discussion had me curious and I was able to find at least a few brands of sustanon as well that contain no BB, only BA.

Yeah mainly mood issues. It also just makes me feel "off" not necessarily sick but unwell. And for whatever reason it's like fertilizer for gyno. I had a small amount of gyno which I had removed but hcg used to make it grow like a weed. Brings back nipple sensitivity even after the surgery so...

So many things it could be. Dht derivatives probably don't feel like endogenous dht the same way steroids are testosterone derivatives but have different effects. Plus the lack of excipients as a possibility. I believe Dr Serrano made the arguments that the esters themselves have a biological...

This is almost universally the answer for seemingly poor decisions

Wish I saw this before Defy sent me another 3 5ml vials last week lol. But I'll know for next time.

Do you think 2% BA alone in test E is enough to cause issues like this with no BB at all? I am noticing a better response and smoother release on E than C for sure.

I have .125mg compounded tabs of anastrozole I can actually split into halves or quarters so I may give it a try at some point. I'll let you know if I do.

So I guess I'm much better off using the test E which only has the 2% BA and no BB. Hopefully it's not enough to cause issues. Definitely true about the raws, all the way back in my AAS and homebrew days, test e was always a waxy powder that easily dissolved, where cyp was more of a hard dry...

Awesome information. Thank you for posting this.

Empower - I am not sure of the base, whatever their standard cream is made in? I didn't get labs honestly and 6 weeks probably wasn't a fair try, especially since I still had some cyp circulating in my system at the beginning. It may be worth revisiting if I don't see some progress by my next...

I've seen you make a few posts about this but didn't get a chance to read into it too much yet, and its really interesting - would that mean the inclusion of BB slows down the absorption? What types of effects in the body does it have? @Charliebizz I did try the cream for a bit, although maybe...

That definitely makes sense. Have you ever attempted a low dose AI at the initial peak to counteract those effects? My experience is the same as yours, I can't seem to replicate that feeling with frequency. No HCG for me at the moment, I feel good for a shot or two but then its nothing but...

I use test E these days as well and despite people telling me they're the same thing, I significantly shed water and that underlying sense of anxiety seems to just disappear when using E over cyp. The enanthate I use from Empower still has BA but not BB, maybe that has something to do with it...

What's your protocol like now? I wonder if estrogen metabolism can make a difference, where it can kind of compound on more frequent injections before having time to clear it from the last shot. Naturally our bodies are a lot smarter than we all are, and would shut off T production once E2...

That guy probably had good intentions to stop guys from needlessly crushing their E2 with poor T mill protocols, but overall his combative personality and that whole "anti-AI no matter what" crowd probably set back the overall TRT community by a good amount until the pendulum started swinging...

All I can say at this point is I am observing vastly different anecdotes on this type of dosing on nearly every forum I've ever read in the 10 years I've been on TRT, including this one. They all have threads about daily low dose injecting and if it was as successful as you're claiming it would...

The reason that forums, websites, and youtube channels like this exist in the first place is from poor protocols. Just as often as T mills overprescribing 200mg/wk with AI and HCG from the start, you have overly conservative or uneducated physicians severely underdosing their patients. You can...

This is something I've always hypothesized about why a certain percentage of men might require estrogen control no matter what the dose is. Some guys just make more E2. Some make tons of DHT but almost no E2. On paper everything could look fine, but it could just be converting at an...