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<blockquote data-quote="Mr_F1tness" data-source="post: 27985" data-attributes="member: 12474"><p>Hi Guys,</p><p> </p><p>This is my first post here in this forum. It may be a little long winded, as I've inserted a letter explaining my history, but please bare wit h me..</p><p>Current Meds</p><p>Testosterone Cypionate - 40mg 2x per week (been doing IM in the delts)</p><p>HCG - 300 iu 2x per week (subq)</p><p>Nature-Throid NDT (3 grain per day)</p><p>Not currently taking Anastrozole, but previously on .25mg per week</p><p></p><p>Supplements:</p><p>Vit D 5000 iu</p><p>Fish Oil (now foods)</p><p>Multi Vitamin (now foods)</p><p>B12 5000mcg (jarrows sublingual)</p><p>Methyl Folate (jarrows) 400mcg</p><p>Iron - 25mg daily</p><p>DHEA 50mg daily</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Here are my most recent labs from July of this year...</p><p></p><p>Total T 983 (348-1197)</p><p>Free T 15.5 (4.7-24.4)</p><p>E2 13.2 (25.8 -60.7) (sensitive)</p><p>SHBG 61 (10-80)</p><p>FT4 .91 (.93-1.7)</p><p>FT3 2.4 (2.0-4.4)</p><p>RT3 9.7 (8-24)</p><p>IGF 1 214 (110-337)</p><p>DHT 43 (30-85)</p><p>DHEAS 212 (160-449)</p><p>VIT D 54 (30-100)</p><p></p><p>Ferritin 45 10-400 ng/mL</p><p>Iron 91 65-175 &#956;g/dL</p><p>Transferrin 249 163-364 mg/dL</p><p>Total Iron Binding Capacity 356 233-520 &#956;g/dL</p><p>Transferrin Saturation (%) 26 20-50 %</p><p></p><p>CBC/CMP all within normal ranges</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> Im 31 years old, 5' 7" tall and currently 150lbs. Ive been very healthy and active all of my adult life, weight training and bodybuilding since I was a teenager and I've been on and off various forms of TRT since 2011 due to secondary hypogonadism of unknown cause. </p><p></p><p>The issue that I am having since March of this year, I have been experiencing an unexplained catabolic response to weight training, despite plenty of calories, and very good hormone levels due to being on TRT. My body weight even pre TRT was always around 165lbs. This past March, I was around 154lbs, since then my weight has very slowly declined down to around 149lbs. But this weight loss has not been due to caloric reduction or overtraining, and is not body fat loss, but muscle loss.</p><p></p><p>I've had great success with TRT in years prior, especially since when I began injections in 2013, which one main reason why this doesnt make sense to me at this point...</p><p></p><p>Side note, I was also diagnosed with subclinical hypothyroid by my ND when I originally went to see him about the TRT in 2013. I currently take Nature Throid NDT at 3 grains per day. I thought that the initial weight loss may have been from too much thyroid, but labs show differently...</p><p></p><p>Any guys out there who have lifted for any significant amount of time or have any bodybuilding background I hope can relate to me here, we seem to be more in tune with our bodies than many others, and this problem is truly very confusing to me. </p><p></p><p> I have been weight training since the age of 15 and always built muscle very easily as a natural. Now, even being on TRT and keeping my hormone levels at the top of the range, my body is remaining in a catabolic state for some unknown reason. </p><p></p><p>The past few months I had a digestive panel done to check for gluten sensitivity or allergies or parasites - it did come back positive for H. Pylori. I was treated for that in June with a triple AB, and confirmed that it was effective with a negative lab for H. Pylori about 6 weeks later. </p><p></p><p>I also had a phone consult with Dr. Crisler back in September about this problem. His thoughts were that it may somehow be related to thyroid, which are my thoughts as well. His advice was to slowly increase the NDT medication by 1.5grain every two weeks, as well as adding an iron supplement to get ferritin up. After doing both of these things for about 6 weeks or so, I can't say that I have seen any improvement, in fact I still seem to be losing muscle at about .25lbs per week despite eating well and continuing to weight train only 3 days per week. </p><p></p><p>I do feel that the answer to this lies somewhere with thyroid, as it cant possibly be testosterone related at this point. Even my current doctor, who is a very good Naturopath here in California has been stumped. If anyone here on this forum has any input at all it would mean a lot, as I've been battling this for several months now. </p><p></p><p>Any input from some of the more experienced people on this forum would be much appreciated, as I am seeking what action I need to take here, thanks guys</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mr_F1tness, post: 27985, member: 12474"] Hi Guys, This is my first post here in this forum. It may be a little long winded, as I've inserted a letter explaining my history, but please bare wit h me.. Current Meds Testosterone Cypionate - 40mg 2x per week (been doing IM in the delts) HCG - 300 iu 2x per week (subq) Nature-Throid NDT (3 grain per day) Not currently taking Anastrozole, but previously on .25mg per week Supplements: Vit D 5000 iu Fish Oil (now foods) Multi Vitamin (now foods) B12 5000mcg (jarrows sublingual) Methyl Folate (jarrows) 400mcg Iron - 25mg daily DHEA 50mg daily Here are my most recent labs from July of this year... Total T 983 (348-1197) Free T 15.5 (4.7-24.4) E2 13.2 (25.8 -60.7) (sensitive) SHBG 61 (10-80) FT4 .91 (.93-1.7) FT3 2.4 (2.0-4.4) RT3 9.7 (8-24) IGF 1 214 (110-337) DHT 43 (30-85) DHEAS 212 (160-449) VIT D 54 (30-100) Ferritin 45 10-400 ng/mL Iron 91 65-175 μg/dL Transferrin 249 163-364 mg/dL Total Iron Binding Capacity 356 233-520 μg/dL Transferrin Saturation (%) 26 20-50 % CBC/CMP all within normal ranges Im 31 years old, 5' 7" tall and currently 150lbs. Ive been very healthy and active all of my adult life, weight training and bodybuilding since I was a teenager and I've been on and off various forms of TRT since 2011 due to secondary hypogonadism of unknown cause. The issue that I am having since March of this year, I have been experiencing an unexplained catabolic response to weight training, despite plenty of calories, and very good hormone levels due to being on TRT. My body weight even pre TRT was always around 165lbs. This past March, I was around 154lbs, since then my weight has very slowly declined down to around 149lbs. But this weight loss has not been due to caloric reduction or overtraining, and is not body fat loss, but muscle loss. I've had great success with TRT in years prior, especially since when I began injections in 2013, which one main reason why this doesnt make sense to me at this point... Side note, I was also diagnosed with subclinical hypothyroid by my ND when I originally went to see him about the TRT in 2013. I currently take Nature Throid NDT at 3 grains per day. I thought that the initial weight loss may have been from too much thyroid, but labs show differently... Any guys out there who have lifted for any significant amount of time or have any bodybuilding background I hope can relate to me here, we seem to be more in tune with our bodies than many others, and this problem is truly very confusing to me. I have been weight training since the age of 15 and always built muscle very easily as a natural. Now, even being on TRT and keeping my hormone levels at the top of the range, my body is remaining in a catabolic state for some unknown reason. The past few months I had a digestive panel done to check for gluten sensitivity or allergies or parasites - it did come back positive for H. Pylori. I was treated for that in June with a triple AB, and confirmed that it was effective with a negative lab for H. Pylori about 6 weeks later. I also had a phone consult with Dr. Crisler back in September about this problem. His thoughts were that it may somehow be related to thyroid, which are my thoughts as well. His advice was to slowly increase the NDT medication by 1.5grain every two weeks, as well as adding an iron supplement to get ferritin up. After doing both of these things for about 6 weeks or so, I can't say that I have seen any improvement, in fact I still seem to be losing muscle at about .25lbs per week despite eating well and continuing to weight train only 3 days per week. I do feel that the answer to this lies somewhere with thyroid, as it cant possibly be testosterone related at this point. Even my current doctor, who is a very good Naturopath here in California has been stumped. If anyone here on this forum has any input at all it would mean a lot, as I've been battling this for several months now. Any input from some of the more experienced people on this forum would be much appreciated, as I am seeking what action I need to take here, thanks guys [/QUOTE]
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