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<blockquote data-quote="bullseye55" data-source="post: 182533" data-attributes="member: 39890"><p>I have some experience with both clomiphene and enclomiphene along with HCG and 1 gram of topical TRT 2% (bit of DMSO added to enhance absorption). Before starting the clomiphene and then enclomiphene my LH and FSH were both <0.2 at the time I was using the TRT and HCG. I dropped the TRT for a month and started clomiphene 25mg/day and anastrozole 0.125mg every 3 days with the HCG. After following this new regimen my LH was 1.2 and FSH 2.6 after a month. The total T and free T were lower without the TRT but the levels were higher than just HCG alone. I reduced the clomiphene to 12.mg and after another 30 days LH was 3.4, FSH 4.4. The lower dose of clomiphene dropped the T levels but bumped the LH and FSH. Enclomiphene 25mg gave similar results to clomiphene 25mg. I did stop the anastrozole for a bit and E sensitive came back as 39 so I went back on at a 0.1mg every 3 days. Enclomiphene 25mg seemed to give me a bit of climax issues so I backed off to 12.5 and added back in the 1gm of TRT since the 12.5 dosages were not as impactful on the T levels. The latest lab day which reflects the TRT/HCG/Enclomiphene/Anastrozole had LH 2.2 FSH 6.4. So TRT with enclomiphene or clomiphene can raise LH/FSH. My biggest objection to either is my SHBG almost doubled from 42 to around 80. Dosage adjustments in the enclomiphene or clomiphene didn't change the increase in SHBG. Boron has been ineffective too. The result of the higher SHBG has been my free T is more in the mid-range vs higher upper end. Not sure if this is a good trade-off. I would say enclomiphene/clomiphene might be one of those situations where less is more. I am trying to figure out if any of this contributed to a DVT diagnosis. i have been on hormone replacement (either T or T/HCG for almost 5 years) with no issues and this was my first experience with clomiphene/enclomiphene. So I might drop it as a precaution, see my SHBG go down and free T back up. I have noticed my testicles hang a lot lower with the enclomiphene/clomiphene. I can't really detect any size change from just the HCG alone vs adding one of these other two agents.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bullseye55, post: 182533, member: 39890"] I have some experience with both clomiphene and enclomiphene along with HCG and 1 gram of topical TRT 2% (bit of DMSO added to enhance absorption). Before starting the clomiphene and then enclomiphene my LH and FSH were both <0.2 at the time I was using the TRT and HCG. I dropped the TRT for a month and started clomiphene 25mg/day and anastrozole 0.125mg every 3 days with the HCG. After following this new regimen my LH was 1.2 and FSH 2.6 after a month. The total T and free T were lower without the TRT but the levels were higher than just HCG alone. I reduced the clomiphene to 12.mg and after another 30 days LH was 3.4, FSH 4.4. The lower dose of clomiphene dropped the T levels but bumped the LH and FSH. Enclomiphene 25mg gave similar results to clomiphene 25mg. I did stop the anastrozole for a bit and E sensitive came back as 39 so I went back on at a 0.1mg every 3 days. Enclomiphene 25mg seemed to give me a bit of climax issues so I backed off to 12.5 and added back in the 1gm of TRT since the 12.5 dosages were not as impactful on the T levels. The latest lab day which reflects the TRT/HCG/Enclomiphene/Anastrozole had LH 2.2 FSH 6.4. So TRT with enclomiphene or clomiphene can raise LH/FSH. My biggest objection to either is my SHBG almost doubled from 42 to around 80. Dosage adjustments in the enclomiphene or clomiphene didn't change the increase in SHBG. Boron has been ineffective too. The result of the higher SHBG has been my free T is more in the mid-range vs higher upper end. Not sure if this is a good trade-off. I would say enclomiphene/clomiphene might be one of those situations where less is more. I am trying to figure out if any of this contributed to a DVT diagnosis. i have been on hormone replacement (either T or T/HCG for almost 5 years) with no issues and this was my first experience with clomiphene/enclomiphene. So I might drop it as a precaution, see my SHBG go down and free T back up. I have noticed my testicles hang a lot lower with the enclomiphene/clomiphene. I can't really detect any size change from just the HCG alone vs adding one of these other two agents. [/QUOTE]
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