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Testosterone Side Effect Management
Questioning both sides of HCG dosing frequency theory
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<blockquote data-quote="Blackhawk" data-source="post: 113223" data-attributes="member: 16042"><p>1: Dr Saya shared the results of his HCG level test study here: <a href="https://www.excelmale.com/forum/showthread.php?6133&p=32234#post32234" target="_blank">https://www.excelmale.com/forum/showthread.php?6133&p=32234#post32234</a></p><p></p><p>It seems that the most prevalent interpretation of this information is that a larger dose is more effective due to 1: the increased level in the blood, 2: the longer term high level effect, and 3 hence higher ongoing level stimulating effect on the testes.</p><p></p><p>However I question this interpretation; How much stimulation do the testes need compared to natural healthy diurnal stimulation by LH? i.e. the theory may be flawed by the idea that more is better. (Dr Saya's own discussion questions this, and states that ideal levels are probably somewhere in between the extremes of this test, and probably varies for the individual.)</p><p></p><p></p><p>2: Dr Crisler is now advising that he prefers daily dosing of lower amount, but averaging similar weekly totals to more closely mimic the diurnal/pulsatile nature of natural LH production. <a href="http://drjohncrisler.com/the-crisler-hcg-protocol---part-deux.html" target="_blank">http://drjohncrisler.com/the-crisler-hcg-protocol---part-deux.html</a></p><p></p><p>So here the question is how consistent are results for guys' boys on this more subtle stimulation?</p><p></p><p></p><p>I pose these questions because in my own case I am on E3D dosing with both T and HCG and have symptoms of high E2 cycling every 3 days as well. (I should have a better picture when I get lab results back in the next week). At this point I have my own interpretation of why, which includes the combination of the effects of both, but due to relative half lives, believe it probably has more to do with the HCG than the T. My conclusion is that I may do better on lower doses more frequently. I'd like to hear other views/interpretations.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Blackhawk, post: 113223, member: 16042"] 1: Dr Saya shared the results of his HCG level test study here: [URL]https://www.excelmale.com/forum/showthread.php?6133&p=32234#post32234[/URL] It seems that the most prevalent interpretation of this information is that a larger dose is more effective due to 1: the increased level in the blood, 2: the longer term high level effect, and 3 hence higher ongoing level stimulating effect on the testes. However I question this interpretation; How much stimulation do the testes need compared to natural healthy diurnal stimulation by LH? i.e. the theory may be flawed by the idea that more is better. (Dr Saya's own discussion questions this, and states that ideal levels are probably somewhere in between the extremes of this test, and probably varies for the individual.) 2: Dr Crisler is now advising that he prefers daily dosing of lower amount, but averaging similar weekly totals to more closely mimic the diurnal/pulsatile nature of natural LH production. [URL]http://drjohncrisler.com/the-crisler-hcg-protocol---part-deux.html[/URL] So here the question is how consistent are results for guys' boys on this more subtle stimulation? I pose these questions because in my own case I am on E3D dosing with both T and HCG and have symptoms of high E2 cycling every 3 days as well. (I should have a better picture when I get lab results back in the next week). At this point I have my own interpretation of why, which includes the combination of the effects of both, but due to relative half lives, believe it probably has more to do with the HCG than the T. My conclusion is that I may do better on lower doses more frequently. I'd like to hear other views/interpretations. [/QUOTE]
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