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Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
Oxandrolone and Nandrolone (common availability)
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<blockquote data-quote="madman" data-source="post: 195968" data-attributes="member: 13851"><p>Like I said.....post pics!</p><p></p><p>You speak so proudly yet hide behind your avatar.</p><p></p><p>Of course, someone can add some muscle/enhance fat loss to their frame when using therapeutic doses of T or ND when following a proper diet/training protocol but there is a huge difference between claiming to gain a lot of mass (actin/myosin + intra-cellular water + extra-cellular water) when compared to <u>pure dry gains</u>.</p><p></p><p>No one is blowing up with any significant amount of dry gains using therapeutic doses of T, ND, or any AAS.</p><p></p><p>Along with dry gains (actin/myosin), many on trt are holding 5-10 lbs in water weight (intra-cellular/extra-cellular) and some even hold more which you would piss out when you come off.</p><p></p><p>See it all the time.....<u>I just started trt 4 weeks ago and my muscles blew up man I'm 10 lbs heavier</u>.....LMFAO!</p><p></p><p>You stated that you made amazing gains on low dose T/ND (you were running higher dosed T protocol before) as your FT levels were through the roof (your past threads I responded to).</p><p></p><p>I am calling you out as I am doubting you packed on any significant amount of pure muscle tissue (dry gains) using therapeutic doses of T/ND.</p><p></p><p>Nothing worse than guys claiming to be packing on a significant amount of muscle tissue (dry gains) using therapeutic doses of T let alone ND yet they have no pics to back it up.</p><p></p><p>Sounds just as bad as the guys coming on here going on about a protocol (dose T/injection frequency) stating they hit this or that level yet they will not post labs to back it up let alone have no f***king idea where their FT level truly sits as they never have had it tested using an accurate assay!</p><p></p><p>Then you have the ones that go on ranting/raving that they need to run absurdly high TT/FT levels to feel good on TRT.....you know those same individuals that were switching their protocol every 6 weeks because they never felt good yet they never gave the protocol a fighting chance because once blood levels stabilize it will take another 2-3 months for the body to adapt.</p><p></p><p>These are the same individuals who have never given a lower dosed protocol a fighting chance let alone are the ones constantly struggling with sides trying to chase that pipe dream you know the one with the so-called raging libido with titanium erections 24/7, crazy amounts of energy, packing on muscle with wolverine like recovery in the gym!</p><p></p><p>Top it all off that some of these individuals are the ones ranting/raving about running absurd<u> trough TT</u> (1500-2000 ng/dL) levels with their FT through the f***ing roof and boasting about making significant gains on trt are the same ones blasting (400-600 mg/week T) and cruising on 200 mg/week.</p><p></p><p>Forums are loaded with many who blast/cruise yet they claim to be on trt only.</p><p></p><p>Blurs the line when we are talking about what so-called significant dry gains were made on therapeutic doses of T!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="madman, post: 195968, member: 13851"] Like I said.....post pics! You speak so proudly yet hide behind your avatar. Of course, someone can add some muscle/enhance fat loss to their frame when using therapeutic doses of T or ND when following a proper diet/training protocol but there is a huge difference between claiming to gain a lot of mass (actin/myosin + intra-cellular water + extra-cellular water) when compared to [U]pure dry gains[/U]. No one is blowing up with any significant amount of dry gains using therapeutic doses of T, ND, or any AAS. Along with dry gains (actin/myosin), many on trt are holding 5-10 lbs in water weight (intra-cellular/extra-cellular) and some even hold more which you would piss out when you come off. See it all the time.....[U]I just started trt 4 weeks ago and my muscles blew up man I'm 10 lbs heavier[/U].....LMFAO! You stated that you made amazing gains on low dose T/ND (you were running higher dosed T protocol before) as your FT levels were through the roof (your past threads I responded to). I am calling you out as I am doubting you packed on any significant amount of pure muscle tissue (dry gains) using therapeutic doses of T/ND. Nothing worse than guys claiming to be packing on a significant amount of muscle tissue (dry gains) using therapeutic doses of T let alone ND yet they have no pics to back it up. Sounds just as bad as the guys coming on here going on about a protocol (dose T/injection frequency) stating they hit this or that level yet they will not post labs to back it up let alone have no f***king idea where their FT level truly sits as they never have had it tested using an accurate assay! Then you have the ones that go on ranting/raving that they need to run absurdly high TT/FT levels to feel good on TRT.....you know those same individuals that were switching their protocol every 6 weeks because they never felt good yet they never gave the protocol a fighting chance because once blood levels stabilize it will take another 2-3 months for the body to adapt. These are the same individuals who have never given a lower dosed protocol a fighting chance let alone are the ones constantly struggling with sides trying to chase that pipe dream you know the one with the so-called raging libido with titanium erections 24/7, crazy amounts of energy, packing on muscle with wolverine like recovery in the gym! Top it all off that some of these individuals are the ones ranting/raving about running absurd[U] trough TT[/U] (1500-2000 ng/dL) levels with their FT through the f***ing roof and boasting about making significant gains on trt are the same ones blasting (400-600 mg/week T) and cruising on 200 mg/week. Forums are loaded with many who blast/cruise yet they claim to be on trt only. Blurs the line when we are talking about what so-called significant dry gains were made on therapeutic doses of T! [/QUOTE]
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Oxandrolone and Nandrolone (common availability)
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