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Natesto: large shards UPDATE- batch is all bad.
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<blockquote data-quote="trax123" data-source="post: 277768" data-attributes="member: 46508"><p>Hi Granger - absolutely fascinating, thank you for confirming you had similar symptoms.</p><p></p><p>[I'll mention as an aside I appreciate all your input - yourself and a few other people on this forum are clearly some combination of higher IQ, autistic, and/or more observant than 95% of the people who practice medicine, and I actually went to medical school! (I don't practice)].</p><p></p><p>It sounds like you experienced basically the same thing (tachycardia, 'flutter' or 'ectopic palpitations' +/- anxiety), and to clarify it DID happen to me hours after a dosage (I stopped all meds immediately). I'm fairly convinced it was an overdose of Testosterone related to the long crystallization discussion we've already had here. </p><p></p><p>I share your view that it seems strange testosterone would cause this though; IM injections typically are at much higher doses and present much higher spikes in serum Free T so one would think this response would be at least commonly reported by the millions of IM TRT patients. But - while case reports exist - it seems fairly rare by my reading of literature, and indeed it doesn't even appear in medical databases as either correlated with tachycardia or as reactive with basically any common drug. </p><p></p><p>I suppose its POSSIBLE something about the nasal delivery is related to this, and of course it is also possible that the crystals in Natesto truly are such higher doses (there's about 330mg total of T in the vial vs the 50-450mg commonly quoted range IM every 2-3 weeks) that it's not seen as much in non-crystallized modalities.</p><p></p><p>I also confirm your own experience that about 2 days later its mostly dissipated, but I do occasionally sense an ectopic heartbeat every hour or so. </p><p></p><p>SUFFICE TO SAY, I believe my experiment with Natesto is now concluded lol. </p><p></p><p>Unless tadalafil (unlikely) or minoxidil (almost impossible) are responsible (or some stacking effect of the 3), OR I have unconvered some underlying cardiac ailment that I otherwise have, I see NO REASON to use Natesto given the - in my view - unacceptable dosing issues.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="trax123, post: 277768, member: 46508"] Hi Granger - absolutely fascinating, thank you for confirming you had similar symptoms. [I'll mention as an aside I appreciate all your input - yourself and a few other people on this forum are clearly some combination of higher IQ, autistic, and/or more observant than 95% of the people who practice medicine, and I actually went to medical school! (I don't practice)]. It sounds like you experienced basically the same thing (tachycardia, 'flutter' or 'ectopic palpitations' +/- anxiety), and to clarify it DID happen to me hours after a dosage (I stopped all meds immediately). I'm fairly convinced it was an overdose of Testosterone related to the long crystallization discussion we've already had here. I share your view that it seems strange testosterone would cause this though; IM injections typically are at much higher doses and present much higher spikes in serum Free T so one would think this response would be at least commonly reported by the millions of IM TRT patients. But - while case reports exist - it seems fairly rare by my reading of literature, and indeed it doesn't even appear in medical databases as either correlated with tachycardia or as reactive with basically any common drug. I suppose its POSSIBLE something about the nasal delivery is related to this, and of course it is also possible that the crystals in Natesto truly are such higher doses (there's about 330mg total of T in the vial vs the 50-450mg commonly quoted range IM every 2-3 weeks) that it's not seen as much in non-crystallized modalities. I also confirm your own experience that about 2 days later its mostly dissipated, but I do occasionally sense an ectopic heartbeat every hour or so. SUFFICE TO SAY, I believe my experiment with Natesto is now concluded lol. Unless tadalafil (unlikely) or minoxidil (almost impossible) are responsible (or some stacking effect of the 3), OR I have unconvered some underlying cardiac ailment that I otherwise have, I see NO REASON to use Natesto given the - in my view - unacceptable dosing issues. [/QUOTE]
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