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<blockquote data-quote="tareload" data-source="post: 222570"><p>Just a quick observation, that's a pretty f'ed up claim to make given the time, effort, and objectivity I tried to use to throw all available (I could find)<strong> <u>human</u></strong> and <strong>rodent </strong>data all into a master plot. Then in<em> excruciating</em> detail I went through what I knew and <em>what I didn't know</em>.</p><p></p><p>The <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandolini%27s_law" target="_blank">bullshit asymmetry principle</a> is working overtime as usual on the internet. Point 2b is why we can't have nice things on Internet forums.</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2019/01/28/bullshit-asymmetry-principle/[/URL]</p><p></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Two questions then arise:</span></em></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><em>1. Is this principle true? Or, more specifically, when is it true and when is it not?</em></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><em></em></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><em>2. To the extent that the principle is true, where is it coming from? I can think of a couple theories:</em></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><em></em></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><em>a. Asymmetry in standards of evidence: it’s much easier to suggest that something might be true than to demonstrate conclusively that it’s not the case. For example, consider “cold fusion”: A single experiment with anomalous results got lots of attention, but it took a lot of effort to figure out what went wrong.</em></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><em></em></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><em>b. <strong>Ethical asymmetry: </strong> The kinds of people who bullshit are more likely to be the kinds of <u>people who misrepresent evidence</u>, </em></span><a href="https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/why-many-lower-their-dose-on-ed-injections.24871/post-218102" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><em><u>avoid correcting their errors</u></em></span></a><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><em>, and intimidate dissenters, so at some point the people who could shoot down the bullshit might decide it’s not worth the trouble: Why bother fight bullshit if the bullshitters are going to turn around and personally attack you? From this standpoint, once bullshit becomes “too big to fail,” it can stay around forever.</em></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I am glad you were able to get to this point in <a href="https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/trt-to-supraphysiological-levels-for-body-building.24696/post-216446" target="_blank">the other thread</a>.</p><p></p><p>Cognitive dissonance is uncomfortable, I get it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Given what I shared with you <a href="https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/trt-to-supraphysiological-levels-for-body-building.24696/post-216411" target="_blank">here </a>and <a href="https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/trt-to-supraphysiological-levels-for-body-building.24696/post-216442" target="_blank">here</a>, if you understood those concepts then you would understand the absurdity of your request. You'd like me to quantify the integrated exposure risk for every individual by stratified TT/fT level.</p><p></p><p>Oh and what I mentioned before was I hypothesized there is risk with an individual going above<em> their reference range</em> and physiologic SP <em>which may less</em> than the top of the physiologic reference range.</p><p></p><p>BTW, in case this is helpful to anyone in setting their TT level vs TRT/TOT protocol by understanding how a group of individuals respond to injectable testosterone ester:</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/what-is-trt-and-what-is-not-trt.22188/post-222101[/URL]</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/what-is-trt-and-what-is-not-trt.22188/post-222084[/URL]</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/what-is-trt-and-what-is-not-trt.22188/post-222061[/URL]</p><p></p><p>#cuttheshit</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tareload, post: 222570"] Just a quick observation, that's a pretty f'ed up claim to make given the time, effort, and objectivity I tried to use to throw all available (I could find)[B] [U]human[/U][/B] and [B]rodent [/B]data all into a master plot. Then in[I] excruciating[/I] detail I went through what I knew and [I]what I didn't know[/I]. The [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandolini%27s_law']bullshit asymmetry principle[/URL] is working overtime as usual on the internet. Point 2b is why we can't have nice things on Internet forums. [URL unfurl="true"]https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2019/01/28/bullshit-asymmetry-principle/[/URL] [I][FONT=Georgia]Two questions then arise:[/FONT][/I] [FONT=Georgia][I]1. Is this principle true? Or, more specifically, when is it true and when is it not? 2. To the extent that the principle is true, where is it coming from? I can think of a couple theories: a. Asymmetry in standards of evidence: it’s much easier to suggest that something might be true than to demonstrate conclusively that it’s not the case. For example, consider “cold fusion”: A single experiment with anomalous results got lots of attention, but it took a lot of effort to figure out what went wrong. b. [B]Ethical asymmetry: [/B] The kinds of people who bullshit are more likely to be the kinds of [U]people who misrepresent evidence[/U], [/I][/FONT][URL='https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/why-many-lower-their-dose-on-ed-injections.24871/post-218102'][FONT=Georgia][I][U]avoid correcting their errors[/U][/I][/FONT][/URL][FONT=Georgia][I], and intimidate dissenters, so at some point the people who could shoot down the bullshit might decide it’s not worth the trouble: Why bother fight bullshit if the bullshitters are going to turn around and personally attack you? From this standpoint, once bullshit becomes “too big to fail,” it can stay around forever.[/I][/FONT] I am glad you were able to get to this point in [URL='https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/trt-to-supraphysiological-levels-for-body-building.24696/post-216446']the other thread[/URL]. Cognitive dissonance is uncomfortable, I get it. Given what I shared with you [URL='https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/trt-to-supraphysiological-levels-for-body-building.24696/post-216411']here [/URL]and [URL='https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/trt-to-supraphysiological-levels-for-body-building.24696/post-216442']here[/URL], if you understood those concepts then you would understand the absurdity of your request. You'd like me to quantify the integrated exposure risk for every individual by stratified TT/fT level. Oh and what I mentioned before was I hypothesized there is risk with an individual going above[I] their reference range[/I] and physiologic SP [I]which may less[/I] than the top of the physiologic reference range. BTW, in case this is helpful to anyone in setting their TT level vs TRT/TOT protocol by understanding how a group of individuals respond to injectable testosterone ester: [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/what-is-trt-and-what-is-not-trt.22188/post-222101[/URL] [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/what-is-trt-and-what-is-not-trt.22188/post-222084[/URL] [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/what-is-trt-and-what-is-not-trt.22188/post-222061[/URL] #cuttheshit [/QUOTE]
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