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Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
My short-term Dbol-only experiment. Or, “How I learned to stop worrying and love oral anabolics”. Part-1
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<blockquote data-quote="JimGainz" data-source="post: 274600" data-attributes="member: 19127"><p>Hey guys. I am nearing the completion of a 3 week Dbol as TRT experiment and wanted to post the protocol and results. I will follow up with the next phase with bloodwork later this Spring.</p><p></p><p>About me:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">57 y/o life time lifter</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">TRT for the past 5 1/2 years</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Normal Protocol is 80 mg Test, 120 nandrolone weekly plus HCG</li> </ul><p>Dbol-only protocol.</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">10 mg of Dbol daily.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">2 shots of HCG per week @500 IUs each shot to maintain some base endogenous testosterone</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">10 mg / day Cardarine daily</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">NO testosterone (stopped pinning TRT 1 week prior to starting the Dbol)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">1/4 of a 25 mg aromasin pill weekly</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Stopped nandrolone 3 weeks prior</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">No peptides</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">1,000 mg milk thistle daily</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Run the above for 3 weeks, off for 3 weeks, repeat.</li> </ul><p>Why this protocol:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I did a bunch of research on short term cycles and discovered that this was the protocol Ben Johnson (the Canadian Olympic sprinter that got busted for roofs in 1989) used for several months leading up to the Olympics. He then switched compounds to Winstrol following the same approach.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Found other reports from anabolic steroid users who advocate short term cycles.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Also I reviewed clinical studies that showed 90% of gains from steroid cycles were achieved in the first 6 weeks. No need for long term cycles.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I am an older lifter looking for some gains and not getting the results I wanted with Test, Nandrolone and Primo (all in moderate doses (200-250 mg/ week total androgens)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I ran Dbol in college over 35 years ago and to date it was the best compound I ever ran. I was wondering if I could get some of that magic back with less of a dose.</li> </ul><p>Results.</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">My results exceeded my expectations.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">On the gains side, I gained 5 lbs, arms went up 1/2 inch, thighs 1/2 inch, shoulders and traps full, looking very vascular with a V tapper.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Morning woods every day (I never had them every day even on testosterone)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Libido strong</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Slept like a baby. Most vivid dreams ever - even more than GHRP</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Great energy.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Best part: the old Dbol feel good effect was in full swing. You may have heard this referred to as “God mode” - you are just so amped mentally and ready for anything. I can’t explain it.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">One side: with the above “feel good” side effect comes some difficulty concentrating. It’s just like I remembered from college. You spend a lot of time daydreaming, iterating, thinking about the future. This started the last week.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">BP raised a bit. I was already on Losartan which kept,my BP 130/75 when I ran nandrolone or 120/70 when just Testosterone- with Dbol only it was mid 130s over 75-79 so definitely a bump. I will be adding some Telmisartan as well - maybe 25 mg and adjust as needed.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Another benefit was I was not waking up in the middle of the night to pee since dropping the Testosterone.</li> </ul><p></p><p>What’s Next.</p><p></p><p>I am ending my 3 week run on January 31st. At that time, I will drop Dbol and Cardarine and either go back to low dose Test with Nandrolone OR, just run nandrolone solo at a higher dose for 4-6 weeks. (I’ve been off for over a month and my joints are really sore. I don’t think I can wait another 5 weeks to complete the next phase without it)</p><p></p><p>Will be off Dbol for 3 weeks and then introduce it again with no test for 2-3 weeks, then off (back on TRT) and get blood work done in April. I want to be off Dbol at least a month prior to bloods to make sure things come back to normal.</p><p></p><p>I will post the phase 2 results and bloodwork mid April.</p><p></p><p>Stay tuned and post or PM me with any questions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JimGainz, post: 274600, member: 19127"] Hey guys. I am nearing the completion of a 3 week Dbol as TRT experiment and wanted to post the protocol and results. I will follow up with the next phase with bloodwork later this Spring. About me: [LIST] [*]57 y/o life time lifter [*]TRT for the past 5 1/2 years [*]Normal Protocol is 80 mg Test, 120 nandrolone weekly plus HCG [/LIST] Dbol-only protocol. [LIST] [*]10 mg of Dbol daily. [*]2 shots of HCG per week @500 IUs each shot to maintain some base endogenous testosterone [*]10 mg / day Cardarine daily [*]NO testosterone (stopped pinning TRT 1 week prior to starting the Dbol) [*]1/4 of a 25 mg aromasin pill weekly [*]Stopped nandrolone 3 weeks prior [*]No peptides [*]1,000 mg milk thistle daily [*]Run the above for 3 weeks, off for 3 weeks, repeat. [/LIST] Why this protocol: [LIST] [*]I did a bunch of research on short term cycles and discovered that this was the protocol Ben Johnson (the Canadian Olympic sprinter that got busted for roofs in 1989) used for several months leading up to the Olympics. He then switched compounds to Winstrol following the same approach. [*]Found other reports from anabolic steroid users who advocate short term cycles. [*]Also I reviewed clinical studies that showed 90% of gains from steroid cycles were achieved in the first 6 weeks. No need for long term cycles. [*]I am an older lifter looking for some gains and not getting the results I wanted with Test, Nandrolone and Primo (all in moderate doses (200-250 mg/ week total androgens) [*]I ran Dbol in college over 35 years ago and to date it was the best compound I ever ran. I was wondering if I could get some of that magic back with less of a dose. [/LIST] Results. [LIST] [*]My results exceeded my expectations. [*]On the gains side, I gained 5 lbs, arms went up 1/2 inch, thighs 1/2 inch, shoulders and traps full, looking very vascular with a V tapper. [*]Morning woods every day (I never had them every day even on testosterone) [*]Libido strong [*]Slept like a baby. Most vivid dreams ever - even more than GHRP [*]Great energy. [*]Best part: the old Dbol feel good effect was in full swing. You may have heard this referred to as “God mode” - you are just so amped mentally and ready for anything. I can’t explain it. [*]One side: with the above “feel good” side effect comes some difficulty concentrating. It’s just like I remembered from college. You spend a lot of time daydreaming, iterating, thinking about the future. This started the last week. [*]BP raised a bit. I was already on Losartan which kept,my BP 130/75 when I ran nandrolone or 120/70 when just Testosterone- with Dbol only it was mid 130s over 75-79 so definitely a bump. I will be adding some Telmisartan as well - maybe 25 mg and adjust as needed. [*]Another benefit was I was not waking up in the middle of the night to pee since dropping the Testosterone. [/LIST] What’s Next. I am ending my 3 week run on January 31st. At that time, I will drop Dbol and Cardarine and either go back to low dose Test with Nandrolone OR, just run nandrolone solo at a higher dose for 4-6 weeks. (I’ve been off for over a month and my joints are really sore. I don’t think I can wait another 5 weeks to complete the next phase without it) Will be off Dbol for 3 weeks and then introduce it again with no test for 2-3 weeks, then off (back on TRT) and get blood work done in April. I want to be off Dbol at least a month prior to bloods to make sure things come back to normal. I will post the phase 2 results and bloodwork mid April. Stay tuned and post or PM me with any questions. [/QUOTE]
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Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
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My short-term Dbol-only experiment. Or, “How I learned to stop worrying and love oral anabolics”. Part-1
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