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<blockquote data-quote="madman" data-source="post: 278984" data-attributes="member: 13851"><p>When it comes to formulations available in Canada you are basically stuck with big pharma transdermal T gels (Androgel, Testim), transdermal compounded T cream, oral TU (Taro-Testosterone), nasal gel (Natesto), or injectable T enanthate (Delatestryl) or T cypionate (Depo-Testosterone/generic).</p><p></p><p>Injections would be your best bet!</p><p></p><p>Even when using big pharma gels AndroGel®, Fortesta®, Testim®, or Vogelxo® the strength is only 1-2% so a fair amount of gel needs to be applied.</p><p></p><p>Keep in mind that absorption using standard transdermal T application whether gel/cream is anywhere from 9-14%.</p><p></p><p>AndroGel® is available in 1.0% and 1.62% concentrations (packet/pump).</p><p></p><p>A common starting dose for Androgel 1% was 50mg T/day (5 g of gel/1 packet) which would be roughly 5 mg T/day and in most cases, men would only hit a mid-normal T level at best.</p><p></p><p>Most men would need the higher-end dose of 100 mg T/day (10 g of gel) which would be roughly 10 mg T/day to achieve a high-end or in some cases very high T level.</p><p></p><p>Some men are poor responders when using transdermal T as they have issues with absorption.</p><p></p><p>In some cases switching over to a higher concentration compounded T cream is all that may be needed.</p><p></p><p>Many end up using compounded transdermal T creams as the strength is much higher 5-20%.</p><p></p><p>Much less needs to be applied let alone the overall cost of the medication is much cheaper.</p><p></p><p>Most are using 20% strength (200mg/mL) and unfortunately many end up on that 200 mg T twice daily application protocol which would surely result in absurdly high TT/FT levels.</p><p></p><p>Many can easily achieve healthy let alone very high T levels on much less especially when applied strictly scrotal.</p><p></p><p>Although transdermal can be a good starting point when jumping on trt there are men who will continue to be poor responders due to absorption issues or in many cases not using a high enough dose of T seeing as most endos/uros rely on using big pharma transdermal T and the strength/potency is much less than what can be achieved using compounded transdermal T gels/creams.</p><p></p><p>Most men end up going on injections Depo-Testosterone (TC) or Delatestryl (TE).</p><p></p><p>Keep in mind that Depo-Testosterone is only available in the 100 mg/mL strength so you would need to inject a larger volume of the oily solution.</p><p></p><p>Not a big deal unless you plan on injecting strictly sub-q as many tend to avoid injecting more than .5 mL as there may be a higher chance of lumps/pain.</p><p></p><p>Mind you when I first started TTh (100 mg T/week) I was injecting 1 mL Depo-Testosterone strictly sub-q and never had any issues at the injection site.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="madman, post: 278984, member: 13851"] When it comes to formulations available in Canada you are basically stuck with big pharma transdermal T gels (Androgel, Testim), transdermal compounded T cream, oral TU (Taro-Testosterone), nasal gel (Natesto), or injectable T enanthate (Delatestryl) or T cypionate (Depo-Testosterone/generic). Injections would be your best bet! Even when using big pharma gels AndroGel®, Fortesta®, Testim®, or Vogelxo® the strength is only 1-2% so a fair amount of gel needs to be applied. Keep in mind that absorption using standard transdermal T application whether gel/cream is anywhere from 9-14%. AndroGel® is available in 1.0% and 1.62% concentrations (packet/pump). A common starting dose for Androgel 1% was 50mg T/day (5 g of gel/1 packet) which would be roughly 5 mg T/day and in most cases, men would only hit a mid-normal T level at best. Most men would need the higher-end dose of 100 mg T/day (10 g of gel) which would be roughly 10 mg T/day to achieve a high-end or in some cases very high T level. Some men are poor responders when using transdermal T as they have issues with absorption. In some cases switching over to a higher concentration compounded T cream is all that may be needed. Many end up using compounded transdermal T creams as the strength is much higher 5-20%. Much less needs to be applied let alone the overall cost of the medication is much cheaper. Most are using 20% strength (200mg/mL) and unfortunately many end up on that 200 mg T twice daily application protocol which would surely result in absurdly high TT/FT levels. Many can easily achieve healthy let alone very high T levels on much less especially when applied strictly scrotal. Although transdermal can be a good starting point when jumping on trt there are men who will continue to be poor responders due to absorption issues or in many cases not using a high enough dose of T seeing as most endos/uros rely on using big pharma transdermal T and the strength/potency is much less than what can be achieved using compounded transdermal T gels/creams. Most men end up going on injections Depo-Testosterone (TC) or Delatestryl (TE). Keep in mind that Depo-Testosterone is only available in the 100 mg/mL strength so you would need to inject a larger volume of the oily solution. Not a big deal unless you plan on injecting strictly sub-q as many tend to avoid injecting more than .5 mL as there may be a higher chance of lumps/pain. Mind you when I first started TTh (100 mg T/week) I was injecting 1 mL Depo-Testosterone strictly sub-q and never had any issues at the injection site. [/QUOTE]
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