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<blockquote data-quote="SomeG" data-source="post: 14960" data-attributes="member: 2599"><p>Chris,</p><p></p><p>Thanks for your response, and sorry for the late reply. </p><p></p><p>Although I do remember that my total test dipped back down to just under 350 ng/dl in December, I don't have my most recent labs from my urologist handy at the moment, so until I get a hand on those, I was wondering if I could ask a few general questions - rather than specific bloodwork related ones.</p><p></p><p>As hanging onto fertility for a couple more years is somewhat important to me, I decided to go the 'safer' route of HCG Monotherapy versus the exogenous testosterone route (or even the Test + HCG +AI route that seems to be the generally favored options on a lot of online boards.) . I decided against clomid because I saw that many journals noted its average 'ceiling' for testosterone levels seemed to be in the 600s or so. If HCG monotheraphy doesn't work, I will try the 'triplecast' of Test + HCG + AI)</p><p></p><p>Seeing this study nudged me to agree with the doctor's suggestion of HCG monotherapy <a href="http://meeting.neaua.org/abstracts/2014/17.cgi" target="_blank">http://meeting.neaua.org/abstracts/2014/17.cgi</a></p><p></p><p>For me, I am not super worried about the fitness/muscle growth issues, as I am 6' 175 lb and fit (wiry muscly and relatively flat stomach). I am more concerned with addressing the fatigue/lethargy/ low mood that I've had over the past few years.</p><p></p><p>Two weeks into HCG monotheraphy (1500 IU 3 x/week) ,I've done my share of lurking in this and many other TRT related boards on these issues, and I am still interested in hearing more about the following questions.</p><p></p><p>-- How long will it take for something to happen, symptom-wise, and how much change should I expect? </p><p> </p><p>(two weeks in, and I am just starting to get some improvement in some of the fatigue-related issues, but I am not a raring to go guy. Also, although I am getting more toned at the gym, I am not a beast, lifting any more weight than usual)</p><p></p><p>-- How worried should I be about estrogenic /estradiol effects?</p><p></p><p>(I have seen lots of posts about this issue online, and I was told that an AI could be prescribed if things came up, but it was not prescribed up front). Also, I saw this study and wondered what everyone's thoughts are.. <a href="http://www.jurology.com/article/S0022-5347(12)02172-6/fulltext#sec0015" target="_blank">http://www.jurology.com/article/S0022-5347(12)02172-6/fulltext#sec0015</a></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I will post my latest labs (right before therapy started) and the ones I have upcoming at the 5 week mark.</p><p></p><p>Thanks for being interested, by the way. This board has made me feel less isolated about my low T situation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SomeG, post: 14960, member: 2599"] Chris, Thanks for your response, and sorry for the late reply. Although I do remember that my total test dipped back down to just under 350 ng/dl in December, I don't have my most recent labs from my urologist handy at the moment, so until I get a hand on those, I was wondering if I could ask a few general questions - rather than specific bloodwork related ones. As hanging onto fertility for a couple more years is somewhat important to me, I decided to go the 'safer' route of HCG Monotherapy versus the exogenous testosterone route (or even the Test + HCG +AI route that seems to be the generally favored options on a lot of online boards.) . I decided against clomid because I saw that many journals noted its average 'ceiling' for testosterone levels seemed to be in the 600s or so. If HCG monotheraphy doesn't work, I will try the 'triplecast' of Test + HCG + AI) Seeing this study nudged me to agree with the doctor's suggestion of HCG monotherapy [URL]http://meeting.neaua.org/abstracts/2014/17.cgi[/URL] For me, I am not super worried about the fitness/muscle growth issues, as I am 6' 175 lb and fit (wiry muscly and relatively flat stomach). I am more concerned with addressing the fatigue/lethargy/ low mood that I've had over the past few years. Two weeks into HCG monotheraphy (1500 IU 3 x/week) ,I've done my share of lurking in this and many other TRT related boards on these issues, and I am still interested in hearing more about the following questions. -- How long will it take for something to happen, symptom-wise, and how much change should I expect? (two weeks in, and I am just starting to get some improvement in some of the fatigue-related issues, but I am not a raring to go guy. Also, although I am getting more toned at the gym, I am not a beast, lifting any more weight than usual) -- How worried should I be about estrogenic /estradiol effects? (I have seen lots of posts about this issue online, and I was told that an AI could be prescribed if things came up, but it was not prescribed up front). Also, I saw this study and wondered what everyone's thoughts are.. [URL]http://www.jurology.com/article/S0022-5347(12)02172-6/fulltext#sec0015[/URL] I will post my latest labs (right before therapy started) and the ones I have upcoming at the 5 week mark. Thanks for being interested, by the way. This board has made me feel less isolated about my low T situation. [/QUOTE]
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