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<blockquote data-quote="Mocha" data-source="post: 9755" data-attributes="member: 1939"><p>Hi Nelson,</p><p></p><p>Thank you for the response. Your posts are comforting. Just today, I received your book from Amazon &#8211; “T &#8211; A Man's Guide.” It's going be a fascinating read. </p><p></p><p>Here's what I extrapolate (from your posts and from the paper):</p><p></p><p><strong>1. Dosage:</strong> Women take 10 times higher dose of hCG (during fertility treatment) than what most males take for TRT (which is 500IU to 1000 IU per week). </p><p></p><p><strong>2. Disease:</strong> Retinoblastoma is an extremely rare condition (1 in every 15-20000 infants get the disease).</p><p></p><p><strong>3. Population:</strong> Retinoblastoma affects infants more than it affects adults. As per the available literature (until 2011), <strong>only 23 adult cases</strong> have been documented [<a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3110443/" target="_blank">1</a>]. </p><p></p><p>// Considering points 2 and 3 (Disease and Population), it's safe to conclude that this is among the rarest of rare cancers for adults. </p><p></p><p><strong>4. Data:</strong> I don't believe we have even a single study, or a single anecdotal event, that suggests hCG administration is bad for the Retina (with the exception of the study in question (which is not directly relevant for TRT)).</p><p></p><p>The news is good. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p> </p><p>Nelson / Gene:</p><p></p><p>Are there any studies (or anecdotes) that show a link between hCG injections and cancers in adults? I looked hard, but didn't find any. I ask because high levels of hCG are usually found in germ cell cancers [<a href="http://www.cancer.org/treatment/understandingyourdiagnosis/examsandtestdescriptions/tumormarkers/tumor-markers-t-m-blood-urine" target="_blank">2</a>]. Obviously, it doesn't correlate &#8211; but you guys know better.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mocha, post: 9755, member: 1939"] Hi Nelson, Thank you for the response. Your posts are comforting. Just today, I received your book from Amazon – “T – A Man's Guide.” It's going be a fascinating read. Here's what I extrapolate (from your posts and from the paper): [B]1. Dosage:[/B] Women take 10 times higher dose of hCG (during fertility treatment) than what most males take for TRT (which is 500IU to 1000 IU per week). [B]2. Disease:[/B] Retinoblastoma is an extremely rare condition (1 in every 15-20000 infants get the disease). [B]3. Population:[/B] Retinoblastoma affects infants more than it affects adults. As per the available literature (until 2011), [B]only 23 adult cases[/B] have been documented [[URL="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3110443/"]1[/URL]]. // Considering points 2 and 3 (Disease and Population), it's safe to conclude that this is among the rarest of rare cancers for adults. [B]4. Data:[/B] I don't believe we have even a single study, or a single anecdotal event, that suggests hCG administration is bad for the Retina (with the exception of the study in question (which is not directly relevant for TRT)). The news is good. :) Nelson / Gene: Are there any studies (or anecdotes) that show a link between hCG injections and cancers in adults? I looked hard, but didn't find any. I ask because high levels of hCG are usually found in germ cell cancers [[URL="http://www.cancer.org/treatment/understandingyourdiagnosis/examsandtestdescriptions/tumormarkers/tumor-markers-t-m-blood-urine"]2[/URL]]. Obviously, it doesn't correlate – but you guys know better. [/QUOTE]
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