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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Testosterone Side Effect Management
Free Testosterone targets for the best Libido
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<blockquote data-quote="FunkOdyssey" data-source="post: 277579" data-attributes="member: 44064"><p>A more complete account of his recommendations: he is saying that with a dose frequency of every 4-6 days, he likes to see 130-175 pg/ml trough value on the Quest EqD free T test. Each of those details is significant if you want to try reproducing his protocol and results.</p><p></p><p>My thoughts:</p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">He's finding relatively infrequent injections of the longer esters to be optimal for libido, which is consistent with a majority of anecdotes where the effect of different injection frequencies were evaluated.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The infrequent injections mean the average and peak levels will be higher than you might think given the trough value.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Quest EqD free T usually gives a result somewhat lower than the Vermeulen calculated free T that is the de facto standard, again contributing to levels higher than you might expect based on the value alone.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">You put all of this together and this "optimal libido protocol" has men spending a majority of the time with a calculated free T in the 20-30 ng/dL range which is consistent with most other TRT-focused practitioners.</li> </ol><p>Don't use that tru-t calculation -- that is garbage compared to Vermeulen. The Vermeulen calculation with your SHBG and albumin values would require a testosterone of 825 ng/dL to hit 17.5 ng/dL free T. Again though, the Quest EqD test he's looking at will usually return a lower result than this calculation, meaning the Total T you would need to hit 17.5 ng/dL on that test would actually be higher.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FunkOdyssey, post: 277579, member: 44064"] A more complete account of his recommendations: he is saying that with a dose frequency of every 4-6 days, he likes to see 130-175 pg/ml trough value on the Quest EqD free T test. Each of those details is significant if you want to try reproducing his protocol and results. My thoughts: [LIST=1] [*]He's finding relatively infrequent injections of the longer esters to be optimal for libido, which is consistent with a majority of anecdotes where the effect of different injection frequencies were evaluated. [*]The infrequent injections mean the average and peak levels will be higher than you might think given the trough value. [*]Quest EqD free T usually gives a result somewhat lower than the Vermeulen calculated free T that is the de facto standard, again contributing to levels higher than you might expect based on the value alone. [*]You put all of this together and this "optimal libido protocol" has men spending a majority of the time with a calculated free T in the 20-30 ng/dL range which is consistent with most other TRT-focused practitioners. [/LIST] Don't use that tru-t calculation -- that is garbage compared to Vermeulen. The Vermeulen calculation with your SHBG and albumin values would require a testosterone of 825 ng/dL to hit 17.5 ng/dL free T. Again though, the Quest EqD test he's looking at will usually return a lower result than this calculation, meaning the Total T you would need to hit 17.5 ng/dL on that test would actually be higher. [/QUOTE]
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