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I've been on Androgel for 8 years and I'm on 4 pumps with 500iu's of hCG every other day. I run in the 1400's for total T and I've been feeling great for years. I jump on ExcelMale about 2-3 times a week just to read and check on any new developments but I don't have any complaints or issues.

Yes, I used 500iu's every other day.

Just the shoulders and upper arms.

I've been on Androgel since 2014 and I hit 1339 total T on 4 pumps. https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/my-labs-on-4-pumps-of-androgel-and-500ius-of-hcg-eod.9352/#post-60405 I've dropped the dosage since then but I'm still on it to this day and doing great.

Did a doc give him that HCG? What did the doc say or recommend?

This is great that you know the contributors so now, you can fix those and hopefully, it can resolve the HCT, HGB and E2 issues.

You shouldn't have to donate blood while on TRT. Think about it, young men in their 20's, at the highest levels of TRT in their lives, don't have to donate blood. If your HGB and HCT are climbing, then you need to lower your dose. I've been on TRT for over 6 years and never had to donate. My...

Oh, I see what you're saying. I'll eventually start to feel the difference from no HCG.

Let me update. I still haven't felt any difference mentally but I see a slow shrinkage in my testicles and less ejaculate. My libido is still strong. I get my new shipment of HCG next week so I'll see what I should do.

Hi, What's your protocol for the HCG?

Great question. What happens with the solvent over time? I would imagine the bac water has alcohol in it so that it can stop bacteria growth over time and the solvent doesn't? Am I correct? Does this impact the strength of the mixed HCG?

Hi, My current protocol is 4 pumps of androgel daily with 500iu's of hCG every other day. I've hit over 1300 total T on this protocol: My labs on 4 pumps of Androgel and 500iu's of hCG EOD With the pandemic, I couldn't get the hCG and I only had one bottle left so I stretched it out. For the...

Sometimes that's the only way a person can get T. Thankfully, I've always run into docs that let me self inject before I went to Androgel but for some people, going to a doc's office is the only option they have.

I read that while google searching. It could be wrong. I’m just trying to see what I’m missing out on and to be honest, it doesn’t seem like much. If a person could handle HCG, they might be pretty much covered

I’m wondering if HCG can replace those missed hormones or are there more? It looks like FSH, IGF and kisspeptin are missing too

I'm wondering too. Also, does FSH play a factor? Are there any others that are suppressed?

Thank you for the amazing read.

Hi, I got up to 1400 on Androgel but that's with 4 pumps and 500iu's of HCG every other day. Androgel has been very good to me and it's worked for the past several years.

I've been on TRT for 6 years now and I have no complaints. It's been wonderful for me. I'm on 4 pumps of Androgel daily with 500iu's of HCG every other day. I remember reading, a long time ago, that HCG is recommended with TRT and one of the reasons is that it'll activate LH receptors across...

I feel great on Androgel. No problems. My SHBG is 27 and the reference range is 13-71.

I apply on my shoulders and upper arms.

Give transdermals a try. I've been on TRT for over 5 years and did injections and Androgel. If you check my past posts, you'll see I run at 1440 for total T on 4 pumps of Androgel, and have been for 4 years now, and have a wife, daughter and dog and have zero transference issues. Like a...

I went from 5M to 25M. Under 20M is when the docs start to look at fertility issues.

I froze sperm years ago but I let it go since I don't plan on having anymore children. It's a good idea though to do that.

Grrrr......let me tell you my story. Back in 2001, I had severe pain in my right testicle. Went to the ER and they thought I had a VD so they gave me a shot. I'm back there 2 days later still in pain. Docs say I have chronic prostatitis and epididymitis and give me antibiotics and pain...

I've been on TRT since 2013 and I started at 250iu's of HCG twice a week and my testicles got softer and started shrinking. I immediately added a third shot (so now I was up to 250iu's on M-W-F) and it was fine. I then tried 150iu's per day and that went well too. I then read about fertility...

I had a grade 3 varicocele in my right testicle with pain and a grade 2 in my left one. I also had sperm issues. The sperm count was good (75M), it was just that they had issues (morphology, etc.). My LH and FSH were both low normal, indicating secondary, but I was diagnosed with primary due...

Something I forgot to mention, the 400 is before application so, for the majority of the testosterone drop from 1400 to 400, I'm likely asleep.

Hi, this is Androgel 1.62% and each pump has 20.25mg's per pump so 4 pumps is 81mg's. Now, most people only absorb 10% so I would say that a person gets around 8mg's a day, which supposed matches a healthy person's output of T per day..

I use 4 pumps, the max dose. I really should drop it down to 3 but I've been running this dose for years with no side effects

Not really. At night, and in the morning, before I apply the gel, my libido is very strong and erection quality is excellent. If I didn't run the blood tests, I wouldn't have known there was a difference.