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    Question Waaaay too much pre-cum after TRT dosage change

    Sorry in advance for the gross topic, but I guess that's kind of what we specialize in here.

    I've been on TRT for 2 years at various dosages trying to get dialed in. Sometimes at different dosages I have more or less pre-cum. After my latest dosage change through Dr. Saya at Defy I now have huge amounts. More than I've ever seen. As in during foreplay it's dribbling down onto the floor. This happens consistently any time I'm aroused.

    The excessive pre-cum started about 2 weeks after changing from 56mg Test Cypionate every other day to 28mg Test Cypionate every day - essentially taking the same dose but splitting it up into every day instead of every other day. No other changes in my meds. I also changed my injection site from glute to thigh but I doubt that would make a difference.

    A few days after the dosage change I felt like superman in and out of the bedroom. This lasted until approximately 2 weeks after the changes and now I feel slightly more negative and foggy headed, slightly less morning wood and erection quality, and crazy, embarrassing amounts of pre-cum when I start to get aroused.

    I'm wondering what's causing this massive amount of pre-ejaculate? Is there a certain hormone level that this is generally indicative of? I'd like to get rid of it but I'm also wondering if I can use this as a barometer of my hormone levels.

    My full regimen is below:

    Test Cypionate 28mg every day (was 56mg EOD before)
    HCG 125 IU daily
    Anastrozole 0.08mg daily
    Desiccated Thyroid 1 grain per day
    Tadalafil: 5mg 2x per day
    L-Arginine 3000mg 2-3x per day
    L-Citrulline 1500mg 2-3x per day
    Pine bark extract 150mg 2-3x per day
    Vitamin D3 5000 IU per day
    Fish oil 2 capsules per day

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    It's the HCG that is helping to increase seminal fluid. You have a potent combination with testosterone doing its part to increase desire, Tadalafil and 2 Aminos for circulation and NO, a daily regiment of the LH analog with HCG to stimulate the leydigs and promote testicular activity.
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    Funny I am on TRT and have very little pre cum, and would like more. It is always greener on the other side of the fence I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vettester Chris View Post
    It's the HCG that is helping to increase seminal fluid. You have a potent combination with testosterone doing its part to increase desire, Tadalafil and 2 Aminos for circulation and NO, a daily regiment of the LH analog with HCG to stimulate the leydigs and promote testicular activity.
    The thing is, my HCG dose hasn't changed at all. It's been constant for about a year. The Tadalifil and aminos haven't changed either. The only change was going from Testosterone EOD to Testosterone ED and the result is a massive, never before seen increase in pre-ejaculate two weeks later. I dont' see how it can be caused by the HCG when it's never happened before over the previous year at this same HCG dosage.

    Is there a correlation between pre-ejaculate and T or E2 levels?

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    Are you taking pygeum by any chance? That increases pre cum big time..

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    Are you taking pygeum by any chance? That increases pre cum big time..
    I'm taking Pine Bark Extract. That's not the same thing, is it?

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    Having been on a daily injection protocol for nearly two years, I can confirm that I began to experience significantly more seminal discharge once I adopted that protocol. Not an issue for me, possibly not as much released, and I didn't experience the slight negatives you described. I have been on/off HCG during this period, and on again, so in my case it isn't attributed to that.

    When was the last time you ran labs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoastWatcher View Post
    Having been on a daily injection protocol for nearly two years, I can confirm that I began to experience significantly more seminal discharge once I adopted that protocol. Not an issue for me, possibly not as much released, and I didn't experience the slight negatives you described. I have been on/off HCG during this period, and on again, so in my case it isn't attributed to that.

    When was the last time you ran labs?
    Coast watcher, so what you're saying in your case. Daily testosterone injections increased your semen?
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    Not the same as pine bark extract

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vince View Post
    Coast watcher, so what you're saying in your case. Daily testosterone injections increased your semen?
    Yes, it did, but not to the point I was uncomfortable with it.
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    Daily at the same Cyp dose hasn't not done that too me. I'd like to have that problem actually!

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    Just to clarify, it hasn't increased my semen when I ejaculate (that I've noticed), only my pre-ejaculate.

    It sounds like no one has any definitive answers so far. I'm only two weeks after a dosage change (albeit a minor one) and I know that things can get weird while everything readjusts. I guess I'll wait it out and start worrying about it more if it continues after a few more weeks.

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    Good topic!!
    dont have any knowledge to add but the only changes I notice in pre-cum is if I don't ejaculate for a couple days and then become super horny/aroused directly with a woman, (vs. porn or some hot chick photo) it's flowing like Niagra. The more aroused I become and for prolonged times, it increases fiercely. Girlfriend finds it to boost her sexual ego!

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    Someguy, how often do you have sex or ejaculate. I've never had pre-cum..ever
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    Good problem to have. I noticed a slight discharge increase if I go a couple days without ejaculated. Wife will play with it while semi hard and start laughing (in a fun way) about how 'slimy' her hand is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vince View Post
    Someguy, how often do you have sex or ejaculate. I've never had pre-cum..ever
    Every 1 - 3 days. I normally have a little, but nothing even close to this!

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    Funny, but this has recently been something I noticed. I'm on 100 mg test cyp, no HCG, fish oil and vitamin D3. I take Cialis generic most days, 5mg with an occasional 10-20 before sex. Wife and I have sex 4-5 times per week. Lot more semen since TRT. Less for years, I thought it was because I was older.

    I don't have a problem with it. My wife gets excited by the increase. If you are functioning and having fun, does it make any difference for you?

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    Interesting comments on semen, most men complain about less semen when going on TRT.
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    I am 62 and taking Testosterone and HCG and I have this problem as well. It's especially problematic when, say, I'm kissing a woman for the first time and suddenly I've got a big dark blotch on the front of my trousers.
    Also, well before I ejaculate, the pre-ej starts dribbling out, and by the time I actually do ejaculate, hardly anything comes out. Just a little nothing blob. Still feels good but not as good and I do miss the quantity and force of the ej.
    I can't believe I'm discussing this but it's a problem for me and I wish there was a way to deal with it

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    Anyone know the impact of doing kegals would have on this? I probably should give them a try. My wife does them regularly and they help her a lot, or so she says. They've kept her tight vaginally.

    Maybe they would benefit those of us who dribble too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Anyone know the impact of doing kegals would have on this? I probably should give them a try. My wife does them regularly and they help her a lot, or so she says. They've kept her tight vaginally.

    Maybe they would benefit those of us who dribble too much.
    Nelson has a thread on that. https://www.excelmale.com/showthread...e-Pelvic-Floor
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    My full regimen is below:

    Test Cypionate 28mg every day (was 56mg EOD before)
    HCG 125 IU daily
    Anastrozole 0.08mg daily
    Desiccated Thyroid 1 grain per day
    Tadalafil: 5mg 2x per day
    L-Arginine 3000mg 2-3x per day
    L-Citrulline 1500mg 2-3x per day
    Pine bark extract 150mg 2-3x per day
    Vitamin D3 5000 IU per day
    Fish oil 2 capsules per day

    That is a hell of a lot of Test Cyp...200 mg per week...Am I correct?

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