Poorly Managed Cycles - Need Advice on Recovery

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Pablosaur

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At age 22 in Around April/May 2015 i ran a cycle of test-e 250mg twice a week all the way up to September. I was young and stupid and was extremely negligent towards possible side affects. Now i just want to be back to normal. I threw anavar in towards the end of the cylce and my testicles shrivelled up to nothing at one point.

Throughout the cycle and to this day i have had ed issues. I didnt use hcg or an AI on cycle. I think high E2 caused the ED.

At the end of the cycle in september 2015 i did a few weeks of nolvadex following dosgaes recommended online somewhere for about 4 weeks and threw in some arimidex not really knowing what i was doing. My libido was down and i always struggled to maintain an erection.

I had a bloods done in june 2016 after months of avoiding the GP and he said everything was fine and in range so i put it down to being a psychological thing. I was down and did some stupid 2/3 week course of winstrol at 50mg a day before i went on holiday in September 2016 as a bit of a confidence booster with some friends who are also uneducated on steroid use.

I paid my GP to see the blood results from june 2016 and the only useful value i could really see was that my total serum testosterone was 11.7nmol/L. This was 7 months after finishing the cycle so within range but when i looked ... well out for a 23 year old ?! My GP never picked up on this ... then i foolishly threw more steroids in myself ?!

I just didnt get the sexual urges i used to before steroids. I just dont feel like i used to before i touched them. I could get an erecion and have slight pleasure but struggled to maintain it.

I paid to privately see an endo and he recommended i just wait it out as im young and it could take up to 3 years to return to homeostasis. The GP said i could have counselling.

I have been on OTC test boosters and PCT product with reservatrol in for the past two months, and my libido went way down and ED worsened. I had bloods done last week which came in at:-

Testosterone 29.7nmol/L (7.6-31.4)

Free Test 0.677nmol/L (0.30 - 1)

Oestradiol 226.7pmol/L (0-191.99)

SHBG 31.24nmol/L (16-55)

FSH 2.03 IU/L (1.5 - 12.4)

LH 7.9 IU/L (1.7 - 9.6)

Evidently i have some function down there ! The high E2 would explain why i still feel crap and have no libido etc, and balls are still small, as i added arimidex to trial and my testicles increased in size dramatically and hung lower. The mental side of things has led me to seek advice on what is actually best to do rather than mess with my hormones and emotions like this.

My question is should i stop all supps now and see where im at ? As the E2 is now high it will obviously just hammer that high test level back down as soon as i stop

So would i be better implementing a suicidal AI like aromasin and carrying on with the supplements so my testes come back a bit more before discontinuing by tapering ? Then hopefully being left at a much better natural level

Thanks !!! Your time is so much appreciated im so down and on the verge of a breakdown
 
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Pablosaur

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I specifically just want a straight answer regarding my theory, and to understand why it is incorrect if so.

I am in the UK so contacting excel male and visiting them for treatment woukd be difficult, and i woukd be administering it all myself to restore myself back to what i was pre steroids.

I would just like a step by step guide really on what to do, test for, dosgaes
 
Oh boy! No judgment here. I wish you the best. Are you sure you had legit anavar? Perhaps you should check other some stream hormones and do more comprehensive blood work. Please check prolactine. Personally I have found prolactine to be a bigger problem than high estrogen. The steroids you mentioned do not usually close prolactine issues but jut too be safe...
 

Pablosaur

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No doctor. The GPs in the UK say im within range and fine.

The endo said wait it out it could take up to 3 years. It's really hard man
 

Nelson Vergel

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Pablosaur

The good news is that your LH and T are up again, so no HPTA suppression. You mention OTC boosters but do not say what they have.

Why don't you just stop everything, take low dose cialis daily for a month, and may be no more than .25 mg anastrozole twice per week? Wait for a month before you make another change.
 

Pablosaur

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Thanks for your reply Nelson it's much appreciated.

The OTC Pct product has reservatrol in, which seems to be acting like a SERM ?

But i will take your advice and come off everything and see where i level out at.
 

CoastWatcher

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Thanks for your reply Nelson it's much appreciated.

The OTC Pct product has reservatrol in, which seems to be acting like a SERM ?

But i will take your advice and come off everything and see where i level out at.

Please be patient as you work through this. Let us know how it plays out.
 
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