Vince
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Cialis has also been shown to lower high blood pressure. Although it does not dramatically lower blood pressure, it will help most guys struggling with hypertension.
Benefits of Daily Cialis?
- Thread starter Mountain Man
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GreenMachineX
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Sounds good. Now I just have to talk to my doctor about tapering off the bisoprolol.
Mountain Man
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Mountain Man
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I just got my bloodwork back and I wanted to share the results of daily 5mg cialis. My estrogen levels dropped 5 points and my PSA also dropped. At 63 I am down to 11% body fat. I have no doubt that my little experiment on the benefits of daily cialis has been a success.
My protocol has been 100 mg per week, taken in one dose on Wednesday evenings. I am thinking of bumping the dose up to 120 per week, as my estrogen and relevant numbers are all in good spots and the only change is my total testosterone levels have dropped a bit to 762 at the trough. I'd like to be somewhere between 800 to 1000, but was afraid of the estrogen being too high. I have no doubt that the cialis has been a positive and that it accounts for the lower estrogen. I still take a viagra 50 mg when I plan on sex. Fortunately, my wife enjoys sex as much as I and I never dreamed I'd be having sex 5 times per week, let alone at age 63.
Can't wait to retire in 3 years!
My protocol has been 100 mg per week, taken in one dose on Wednesday evenings. I am thinking of bumping the dose up to 120 per week, as my estrogen and relevant numbers are all in good spots and the only change is my total testosterone levels have dropped a bit to 762 at the trough. I'd like to be somewhere between 800 to 1000, but was afraid of the estrogen being too high. I have no doubt that the cialis has been a positive and that it accounts for the lower estrogen. I still take a viagra 50 mg when I plan on sex. Fortunately, my wife enjoys sex as much as I and I never dreamed I'd be having sex 5 times per week, let alone at age 63.
Can't wait to retire in 3 years!
CoastWatcher
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It's quite possible that if you split that weekly dose of 100mg into two injections you could see your trough rise to your targeted level. Bump it to 60mg twice weekly, 120 a week in divided doses, and it would even more likely. Something to consider...congratulations on your success!
Vince Carter
Banned
Glad to see you're doing so well!
madman
Super Moderator
That's great MM! A trough of 762 is descent especially injecting 100 mg every 7 days as you are also peaking a lot higher in the first 24-72 hrs. You do not mention any negatives regarding your protocol and overall you seem to be doing great on your current regime (sex 5x/week). What are you hoping to achieve trying to increase your trough? I agree with CW if anything split your weekly 100mg dose into 50mg injections every 3.5 days as you will most likely even out your peak/trough and hit your goal as it would be wiser before jumping to 120mg/week as that small increase can affect many other blood markers aside from total/free t as you know. Also if you are feeling great overall on your current protocol is it really worth bumping up your dose (depending on what you are hoping to achieve) as you do not mention why and only state wanting to increase your trough #. I just do not see any drastic improvements in overall low t symptoms if you feel great now and want to bump up your total slightly.
Mountain Man
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I'd like a little more energy and, to be honest, I'd like to put on a little more muscle and strength. I still work 40 hours a week, have a long commute, and have 17 acres of land that my wife and I are homestead farming on with chickens, goats, logging etc. I believe that more muscle, as opposed to shear weight, is very important as I age. Muscle wasting is "normal" at my age. Most guys in their 60's are on the downside of muscle mass, sex drive, strength and all that. I refuse to accept this, at least not now.
Mountain Man
Member
No, that's testosterone cypionate. 5 mg cialis daily.
Vettester Chris
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Leesto
Active Member
It's great to hear your story. I will turn 63 in a couple weeks and I agree with your refusal to accept declining health, muscularity, and sex drive.
madman
Super Moderator
The build you have now is lean/muscular many men would love to be able to achieve that. The regime you are on now with a trough of 762 is more than good enough to maintain what you have and being on trt/lifting weights/following a good diet has helped you achieve that. As far as being more muscular in size; dense quality weight I would say as I have said before you will need to dip your toes well into the supra-physiological range to see any real benefits as it is highly doubtful increasing one's TT trough from 762--->900-1000 ng/dL will result in any significant muscle gain and regardless diet/overall macros/caloric intake is required to build muscle tissue along with a healthy anabolic environment. 250-300 mg T/ week which is considered a low dose cycle for most would make a big difference but other blood markers may turn for the worse. Sure many on trt will experience improved muscle/strength/fat loss but for most staying at the high end of the physiological range will not cause significant gains in muscle/strength as most on trt doses are taking 100-150mg/week, some at the higher-end of 200mg/week. Most seeking to gain any significant muscle/strength will use 250-300 mg/week of testosterone at a minimum and even then many are using 300-600mg/week let alone may also be stacking other AAS (injectables/orals). If you look through most of the research regarding testosterone/muscle growth 200mg/week is usually the minimum dose where the true anabolic effects are seen and increased doses usually result in more significant muscle accumulation of course regardless of using testosterone/AAS one's genetics will always have the final say as some can grow really well on 250-300 mg/week whereas others need much higher doses to achieve the same effects and there are also some poor bastards with shitty genetics due to possible (polymorphisms in androgen receptor/myostatin/or other muscle growth regulators) whom even respond poorly to lower/higher doses of steroids. You look amazing now so is it really worth it if you are already in a good place!
Testosterone Dose-Dependently Increases Maximal Voluntary Strength and Leg Power but Does Not Affect Fatigability or Specific Tension
Proof of the effect of testosterone on skeletal muscle: Journal of Endocrinology
Older Men Are as Responsive as Young Men to the Anabolic Effects of Graded Doses of Testosterone on the Skeletal Muscle
Effects of Testosterone Supplementation on Skeletal Muscle Fiber Hypertrophy and Satellite Cells in Community-Dwelling Older Men
NEJM - Error
http://ajpendo.physiology.org/content/281/6/E1172
Mountain Man
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Thanks madman. You are probably right, and I'll consider this and maybe keep the dose the same. Even though total T levels have dropped, the estrogen to total T level has improved. I just sometimes feel that it could be a little better, but I guess you are right about the biomarkers. My numbers are great, especially for my age and I am hoping for another 30 years or so of vitality. Probably makes a lot of sense to focus on the health aspects.
My diet is very good, eat clean limit sugar, no longer use any alcohol. I probably could eat a bit more, but it's not always something I think about, as I don't spend a lot of time sitting around except when I am at work. My thought is that muscle is an insurance policy of sorts for a guy my age, the more the better. I am lean by nature, was 6' 205 in my prime years and am now still 6', due to a lot of stretching!, and only 190. Maybe the weight difference is due to hip replacement and knee surgeries that have robbed me of some leg muscle mass. Leg work consists of 30 minutes every other day on my Schwinn air dyne and working my land logging, chopping wood and fixing things. I do believe that my future holds more surgeries, possibly another hip replacement on the horizon, and muscle mass and strength is the best way to be prepared for that and the rehab after. And, I kinda like being that old guy that shocks people when he takes his shirt off.
I, too, love the 7mg. The extra 2mg and slow release (SR) make all the difference for me.
I started taking a low dose of Cialis (Tadalafil) in the last few days. My prescription was for 2.5 MG per day, but it made me extremely tired. I cut that dose in half to 1.25 MG per day and have done OK so far. Even the low dose makes me a little tired/relaxed which isn't what I want when going to the gym. I do think it increases muscle pumps during workouts, but since it stays in the system for 36 hrs, I may take my dosage after my morning workouts. I am worried about reports of acid reflux. I had some acid reflux last night and acid reflux is a chronic problem I have already, so hopefully this medication won't make it worse.
Nelson Vergel
Founder, ExcelMale.com
I feel the same way. I think the sinus stuffiness is an issue since it interferes sleep. I also get low back aches and heartburn. Vardenafil is better but shorter half-life.
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