Studies on fish oil

FeelingLost · Nov 5, 2017

Vince said:
The reason I stopped using Carlson fish oil, it isn't triglycerides, it's a ethyl esters.

for newbies like myself.
http://blog.designsforhealth.com/blog/bid/197170/Fish-Oil-Triglycerides-vs-Ethyl-Esters

madman · Nov 5, 2017

Vince said:
The reason I stopped using Carlson fish oil, it isn't triglycerides, it's a ethyl esters.

Carlsons Finest Fish Oil and Cod Liver Oil bottled versions 250 ml or 500 ml are triglyceride form. All other products are either TG/TG+EE/rTG as you can see on page 4-5 of their booklet. https://view.publitas.com/carlson-labs/155l10/page/4-5

madman · Nov 5, 2017

FeelingLost said:
for newbies like myself.
http://blog.designsforhealth.com/blog/bid/197170/Fish-Oil-Triglycerides-vs-Ethyl-Esters

Look through booklet, page 4-5 Structural Forms of Carlson Fish Oil. https://view.publitas.com/carlson-labs/155l10/page/4-5

Vince · Nov 5, 2017

FeelingLost said:
If toxins are a big concern then krill Omega 3 oil would be safest don't Anchovies and Sardines eat krill?
as long as you are sure it is not rancid.

I've always been told, all studies have been only fish oil, krill oil studies have only been done by their manufactures. Krill oil also it's a very expensive way to supplement your EPA and DHA

Vince · Nov 5, 2017

madman said:
Carlsons Finest Fish Oil and Cod Liver Oil bottled versions 250 ml or 500 ml are triglyceride form. All other products are either TG/TG+EE/rTG as you can see on page 4-5 of their booklet. https://view.publitas.com/carlson-labs/155l10/page/4-5

Have they finally put it on their product label?

madman · Nov 5, 2017

Vince said:
Have they finally put it on their product label?

Soft Gels. Look at bottom box nutrient label under Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet. *Reported as triglycerides.

madman · Nov 5, 2017

Cod Liver Oil (bottled)

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FeelingLost · Nov 5, 2017

madman said:
Soft Gels. Look at bottom box nutrient label under Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet. *Reported as triglycerides.

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Contains fish, anchovy, sardine, mackerel.
So there is no cod in there cod liver oil. HaHa sorry I just had to laugh at that one. So typical of companies and their marketing.
I still plan to buy a bottle on my next restock.

Vince · Nov 5, 2017

If you're looking for real fermented col liver oil, I supplement with Blue Pastures Cod liver oil.

madman · Nov 5, 2017

Vince said:
If you're looking for real fermented col liver oil, I supplement with Blue Pastures Cod liver oil.

I did use this in the past but when I started hearing the stories of the fermentation process and possibly oxidization I stopped. Good product mainly for the vitamin A/D but low in omega 3 per serving 1tsp as one would not need to use more than a teaspoon/day as it is a high vitamin naturally fermented cod liver oil and the dose of vitamin A is quite high for a teaspoon so taking anymore caution would need to be used regarding vitamin A overdose. If I ever wanted to try another brand again I would go with Rositas Cod Liver Oil but it is expensive especially to ship to Canada.

madman · Nov 5, 2017

FeelingLost said:
Contains fish, anchovy, sardine, mackerel.
So there is no cod in there cod liver oil. HaHa sorry I just had to laugh at that one. So typical of companies and their marketing.
I still plan to buy a bottle on my next restock.

That is the first label I posted for the fish oil soft gels the second post has an attachment for the label for the cod liver oil but just noticed it is not working hopefully this posts up.

FeelingLost · Nov 5, 2017

Yes I see them both now. So which do you recommend the cod or sardine/mack/anchoy?
I think all are in agreement triglycerides is better than ethyl esters.

FeelingLost · Nov 5, 2017

Vince said:
I've always been told, all studies have been only fish oil, krill oil studies have only been done by their manufactures. Krill oil also it's a very expensive way to supplement your EPA and DHA

This krill is what I bought. 1000mg/ 60 gel tabs 30 bucks
https://sportsresearch.com/products/krill-oil-superba2tm-1000mg

I cut one open today to check the smell. I believe blackhawk suggested that.
Hardly no fishie smell at all. It was dark red and oilie very hard to wash off my fingers. I was very pleased.

When my order came they had a card stating if I would go in amazon and review the product I would receive a free bottle of 60 gels. I said hellyes. The review does not have to be positive. I gave them 4 stars do to the burping. I now take this gel first before breakfast and got no burping so all is well I might edit my review in a few weeks.

Vince · Nov 6, 2017

madman said:
I did use this in the past but when I started hearing the stories of the fermentation process and possibly oxidization I stopped. Good product mainly for the vitamin A/D but low in omega 3 per serving 1tsp as one would not need to use more than a teaspoon/day as it is a high vitamin naturally fermented cod liver oil and the dose of vitamin A is quite high for a teaspoon so taking anymore caution would need to be used regarding vitamin A overdose. If I ever wanted to try another brand again I would go with Rositas Cod Liver Oil but it is expensive especially to ship to Canada.

I actually been using it for years. I feel it gives me a lot of trace vitamins and minerals that I'm missing. Because I supplement with D3 and K complex, I don't think I need to worry about (OD) vit A. I really like that everything is natural in their product.

madman · Nov 6, 2017

FeelingLost said:
This krill is what I bought. 1000mg/ 60 gel tabs 30 bucks
https://sportsresearch.com/products/krill-oil-superba2tm-1000mg

I cut one open today to check the smell. I believe blackhawk suggested that.
Hardly no fishie smell at all. It was dark red and oilie very hard to wash off my fingers. I was very pleased.

When my order came they had a card stating if I would go in amazon and review the product I would receive a free bottle of 60 gels. I said hellyes. The review does not have to be positive. I gave them 4 stars do to the burping. I now take this gel first before breakfast and got no burping so all is well I might edit my review in a few weeks.

If you are looking to take vitamin A than cod liver oil and if not and more than likely you are already supplementing d3 than just take the fish oil ( Carlsons Finest Fish Oil ) if you want to try the bottled version cheaper in the long run as oppose to the soft gels.

FeelingLost · Nov 6, 2017

madman said:
If you are looking to take vitamin A than cod liver oil and if not and more than likely you are already supplementing d3 than just take the fish oil ( Carlsons Finest Fish Oil ) if you want to try the bottled version cheaper in the long run as oppose to the soft gels.

My Doc has asked me to take 3000-4000mg per day finding high quality for a good price is important.
I am currently using the liquid. I picked up the krill just to try when they are gone I will go back to the 16oz bottles. I now have some different brands to try.

I only supplement D3 in the winter. I live in Colorado where it is sunny 300 days out of the year and I ride my mtn bike 3 hours 3-4 days a week in my swimming trunks.

Vince · Feb 11, 2018

Higher fish consumption/omega-3 intake inversely associated with cognitive decline ages 45-70 years:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14745067

Higher plasma omega-3 levels associated with less decline in selected measures of cognitive function (sensorimotor speed) but not in memory or word fluency over 3 years, ages 50-70:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17991662

Lower RBC DHA/EPA levels associated with lower total brain volumes, greater white matter hyperintensity volumes, and lower scores on visual memory, executive function, and abstract thinking in a large (n=1575) subset of the Framingham cohort:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22371413

Higher omega-3 intake associated with greater hippocampal, amygdalar, and total gray matter volume:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17574755

Higher omega-3 serum levels partially offset the cognitive impairment of low physical activity:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24813150

Higher RBC EPA + DHA levels associated with less cognitive decline:
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/77/4/803.long

Human clinical trial

s:
DHA 1700 mg + EPA 600 mg did not slow/reverse cognitive decline in people with dementia over 6 months, but did slow decline in people with mild cognitive dysfunction with MMSE of 27 or greater:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17030655

EPA + DHA 1800 mg per day did not affect cognitive measures over 6 months in people with Alzheimer’s but did slow cognitive decline in people with mild cognitive impairment:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18573585

EPA + DHA 1800 mg per day did not impact cognition in people with MMSE scores of 21 or greater over 6 months:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18678826

EPA 200 mg + DHA 500 mg had no effect on cognitive decline in older, cognitively healthy people over 2 years:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20410089

In a proprietary study, 900 mg DHA improved cognitive measures in people 55 years or greater over 6 months:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20434961

DHA 2000 mg slowed cognitive decline in people with mild-moderate Alzheimer’s dementia but only in apo E3, not apo E4:Quinn JF. A clinical trial of docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) for the treatment of Alzheimer’s disease. Alzheimers Dementia. 2009;5(4) supplement: P84.

Vince · Oct 4, 2019

Researchers in an updated meta-analysis found an association between daily omega-3 supplementation and reduced risk of most CVD outcomes, including heart attack, death from coronary heart disease, and death from CVD, but did not see benefit for stroke. Higher doses of omega-3 fish oil supplements appeared to provide even greater risk reduction. This finding may suggest that marine omega-3 supplementation dosage above the 840 mg/day used in most randomized clinical trials may provide greater reductions in CVD risk. https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/JAHA.119.013543

Vince · Mar 13, 2020

Homocysteine Status Modifies the Treatment Effect of Omega-3 Fatty Acids on Cognition in a Randomized Clinical Trial in Mild to Moderate Alzheimer’s Disease: The OmegAD Study
“…
The effect of ω3-FA supplementation on MMSE and CDR appears to be influenced by baseline tHcy, suggesting that adequate B vitamin status is required to obtain beneficial effects of ω3-FA on cognition.
…”

Per ConsumerLab on it:
A study in Sweden among people with mild to moderate Alzheimer’s disease found that daily supplementation with 1,700 mg of DHA and 600 mg of EPA for six months benefitted only those with adequate B vitamin status (determined by blood levels of homocysteine).

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