Lab results Month 5 on hCG mono Increased hematocrit high free T- low SHBG

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hcG mono therapy now 541+ plus in the fifth month
62 y.o. visceral adipose

Ja-Mar 15: baseline 199 to 300 after stopping gel for several months. >10 years non-compliant gel

hCG mono started April 2015 10,000i,u,/week
labs June new regimen 500 did not work now 1,000 E3D
new labs Sept (below)
I usually do labs 10 am fasting 12 hours but Sept was done two hours after hcg and meal

Sept 08 draw was at 8 pm two hours after last injection:
SBGT 22.7 11.0-78.0 nmol/L
estradiol standard test 50
Progesterone 0.7 0.3-0.9 ng/mL
Prolactin 18.1 ng/mL
Prolactin (2/15 before hCG) 7.9

Total Testosterone 541 250-1100 ng/dL (my 22 was 693 after 6 weeks 4k iu MWF)
Free Testosterone 113.4 35.0-155.0 pg/mL

285H

[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]IGF I Somatomedin C[/TD]
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41 - 279 ng/mL[/TD]
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IGF I (Feb, pre hCG) 316H

Free to total ratio significantlly up. I was unaware that hCG would boost hematocrit significantly

Select values June vs Sept:
Creatinine (JUNE fasting) 0.88 0.40-1.30 mg/dL
Creatinine (sept not fasting)1.10 0.40-1.30 mg/dL
GFR Est-Other 92 (June fasting)
GFR Est-Other 72 (Sept not fasting)

PSA 0.64 (5/22/15)
PSA 0.55 (June) 0.0-4.0 ng/mL
PSA 0.85 (sept)
PSA 1.84 (8/20120)

Hemoglobin A1c (May 2015 fasting)

5.0

4.8-5.6 %

 

Average Glucose (May 2015 fasting)

97

mg/dL



September Thyroid
TSH 3rd Generation 2.187 0.34-4.82 mIU/L

TSH

2.71

(February, pre-hCG) 0.34-4.82 uIU/mL


Free T4 1.01 0.59-1.61 ng/dL
free T4 0.81 (february,pre-hcg)
Free T3 sept 08 draw 3.66 2.3-4.2 pg/mL
Thyroid Perox AutoAb <10 IU/mL

DHEA SULFATE (sept)569 H 25-95 ug/dL H possible adrenal tumor?
DHEA-S (June) 444 H

All below are September, not fasting
:
VitD,25-Hydroxy Tot 25 30-100 ng/mL 10 k iu /day Rx D3 for a year no improvement!
Vitamin B12 827 211-911 pg/mL
Zinc 126 60-130 ug/dL

BUN 28 6-25 mg/dL H
LH 0.1 0.8-7.6 uIU/mL L
FSH 0.1 (sept) 0.7-11.1 uIU/mL L
Calcium 9.7 8.2-10.2 mg/dL
Sodium 139 136-145 mmol/L
Potassium 4.1 3.5-5.1 mmol/L
Chloride 104 98-110 mmol/L
CO2 (Bicarbonate) 26 21-32 mmol/L
Glucose 105 70-99 mg/dL H (all Sept labs not fasting)

Calcium 9.7 8.2-10.2 mg/dL
Total Protein 8.0 6.4-8.2 g/dL
Albumin 4.3 3.2-4.7 g/dL
Total Bilirubin 0.6 mg/dL
Alkaline Phosphatase 54 26-137 U/L
AST 20 0-37 U/L
ALT 36 0-60 U/L

Blood cell count
White Blood Cell Count 11.2 4.0-11.0 K/uL H
Red Blood Cell Count 5.44 4.40-6.00 M/uL
Hemoglobin 17.5 13.5-18.0 g/dL
Hematocrit 50.5 40.0-52.0 %
MCV 93 80-100 fL
MCH 32.2 27.0-33.0 pg
MCHC 34.7 31.0-36.0 g/dL
RDW 13.9 %
Platelet Count 197 150-400 K/uL
Neutrophil % 55 49.0-74.0 %
 
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Thyroid test interpretation requested. Please refer to intro post for labs preceding hCG and at 6 weeks.

Of what significance are the low SHBG, high free T and very high DHEA-S?

Hematocrit and hemoglobin are now at upper limits.

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Extenze HT (two 30 cap pkgs, each cap: GABA 100mg, pregnenolone 100mg,DHEA 50mg, ) Two of the Extenze Black 30 days packs. Used alternately not together. Won't be buying again.
 
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Yes, HCG increases T and thus increases hematocrit. It also shuts down LH and FSH like TRT does.

Extenze HT does not increase testosterone. Don't waste your money.
 

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Thanks Nelson, What about the thyroid and other labs I was advised to get here. I'd be grateful for some interpretation. SHBG seems low, free T high. I DHEA-S is much higher than before. Other values are close to near the upper limit. E2 is 50, what does that mean? Do I go ahead and ramp up the hCG or not? Am I going to need a blood draw? Why is hematocrit so high at these still modest T levels? What about BUN which is flagged? Do I cut back on zinc supplement? Why hasn't my D climbed in to at least normal low after more than a year on Rx D3? Since the spring alone Ive been doing 10,000 iu/day.

Extenze: had it on hand before I came on here. Had no intention of continued use. The black did seem to boost libido though.
 

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Something or other was "pooling" and I was told here I needed all these other tests. I guess any hCG over magic number of 500 just converts to DHEA-S, BUN, albumin and protein. And as long as I'm over that number anyway I might as well go back to the prescribed dose of 4,000 MWF intramuscular and quit the anastozole since it's driving my SBHG so low. Or is it the beet powder? At least I've gotten the prolactin in that sweet spot of <19 and I know to start desiccated thyroid asap even if the doc insists the only thyroid madness is on the internet. I am in sort of a dilemma since he will no longer prescribe hCG if I take any thyroid. As far as I know, which isn't much, there is no exit strategy for hCG. I am certain though that at least in my case 500 iu is a waste of time.
 

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I've added results from the Sept draw and select older labs. What is "pooling"? How much desiccated thyroid should I be taking? What about the DHEA-S? Strategy for low SBHG high free T? Prolactin?
Anyone?
 

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I believe it was Gene that made this comment in my intro post and advised me to get the additional tests.

Is the "free T3" value posted above what is required? With several other urgent medical issues to attend to I have no more time for research. Thanks.

RR,

Pooling may refer to an excess of the thyroid hormone T3. Check it out here:

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/pooling/

Per above ["patients can raise in small increments to alleviate hypo."]

hypothyroidism? most likely but what does "alleviate" mean? Change in lab values?
 
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Reverse T3 now in. Draw was with the rest in Sept

[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]T3 Reverse[/TD]
[TD="class: infoCol"]= 25 8 - 25 ng/dL
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I'd really be grateful for fb on these lab, not just thyroid.

My free testosterone is higher at 114 than I've seen anyone here report especially with tot T at only 541.

SHBG is on the low end at 22.

Prolactin has more than doubled at 18 from 8 since hCG was initiated in April.

DHEA-S is extremely high.

Fatigue and fog are improved. I was looking forward to raising T more.

>> WHAT IS GOING ON? <<

Most troubling has been the development of excruciating neck pain this summer. It may not be related to hCG mono. Low but not high E2 is implicated in bone loss as far as I know. The constant unrelenting nature of this pain has led my doc to order an MRI which I am waiting on. A dexiscan in June revealed nothing troubling.
 

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according to thyroid madness: ["free T3/RT3 ratio, healthy ratios will be 20 or higher"]

3.66/25= 0.15 which is only a fraction of "20". Not sure if this is to be factored by 100. Even then it would be only 75% of the "healthy" value. Someone?

edit: looks like conversion from pico to nano grams is required.
If I did this right: RT3 Ratio: 14.6
 
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