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Vince

Super Moderator
I'm not on TRT at this time.

Tests Result Reference Interval
WBC 5.8 3.4-10.8
RBC 4.59 4.14-5.8
Hemoglobin 14.6 12.6-17.7
Hematocrit 42.6 37.5-51.0
MCV 93 79-97
MCH 31.8 26.6-33.0
MCHC 34.3 31.5-35.7
RDW 13.1 12.3-15.4
Platelets 197 150-379
Neutrophils 54
Lymphs 30
Monocytes 12
Eos 3
Basos 1
Neutrophils (absolute) 3.1 1.4-7.0
Lymphs (absolute) 1.8 0.7-3.1
Monocytes (absolute) .7 0.1-0.9
Eos (absolute) .2 0.0-0.4
Baso (absolute) 0.0 0.0-0.2
Immature Granulocytes 0
Immature Grans (abs) 0.0 0.0-0.1
Glucose, Serum 102 65-99
BUN 30 6-24
Creatinine, Serum 1.00 .76-1.27
eGFR 82 >59
eGFR 95 >59
BUN/Creatinine Ratio 30
Sodium, Serum 141 134-144
Potassium, Serum 5.3 3.5-5.2
Chloride, Serum 105 97-108
Carbon Dioxide, Total 24 18-29
Calcium, Serum 9.4 8.7-10.2
Protein, Total, Serum 6.3 6.0-8.5
Albumin, Serum 4.5 3.5-5.5
Globulin, Total 1.8 1.5-4.5
A/G Ratio 2.5 1.1-2.5
Bilirubin, Total .4 0.0-1.2
Alkaline Phosphatase, S 83 39-117
AST (SGOT) 27 0-40
ALT (SGPT) 37 0-44
Cholesterol, Total 182 100-199
Triglycerides 65 0-149
HDL Cholesterol 78 >39
VLDL Cholesterol Cal 13 5-40
LDL Cholesterol Calc 91 0-99
T. Chol/HDL Ratio 2.3 0.0-5.0
Testosterone, Serum 534 348-1197
Prostate Specific Ag, Serum .8 0.0-4.0
Estradiol <5.1 7.6-42.6
LH 13.2 1.7-8.6
TSH 1.160 .45-4.5
DHEA-Sulfate 87.5 48.9-344.2

Questions/Comments appreciated.

Vince
 
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Gene Devine

Super Moderator
Given that you tell us anything about yourself like age and health I am going to put you into your 50's by looking at your avatar.

If so, you look nice and healthy and with Total Testosterone in the 500's you look pretty good.

Surprised Estrogen is low. You must have low body fat and a strong liver.

You should supplement with DHEA and Pregnenelone at 50 mg each morning.
 

Vettester Chris

Super Moderator
LH looks to be a bit high, but total serum sitting at 534ng/dl. I would think having an LH at 13.2 would show a strong demand with the feedback loop for total serum, but yours isn't tanked by any means. Do you have any other pituitary related labs .. Prolactin, ACTH, ..?

Usually when we see someone with their LH elevated in the teens, you will tend to see endogenous serum levels in the 100's, 200's .. Usually that will indicate a diagnosis of Primary Hypo. Just for talking points, I'd probably want a physician to look further into the cause of this with a testicular exam, and/or an MRI of the pituitary. Who knows, it could be just an under performing testicle that's causing a higher demand for LH (?). I think it's worth looking at, but that's just me, I could be wrong...
 

Vince

Super Moderator
Thanks for your feedback Gene and Chris. I can't take DHEA because for some reason it depleats my testosterone. Thanks for the compliment on my age, most people think I'm older than I am. I will be 60 in two weeks. My LH is low because I have one functioning testicle, you were right on Chris. Thanks again guys.
 

Gene Devine

Super Moderator
Thanks for your feedback Gene and Chris. I can't take DHEA because for some reason it depleats my testosterone. Thanks for the compliment on my age, most people think I'm older than I am. I will be 60 in two weeks. My LH is low because I have one functioning testicle, you were right on Chris. Thanks again guys.


How in God's name does DHEA suppress Testosterone?

I've studied this prohormone to the nth degree and I've never heard of that happening.

Our own bodies produce the pro hormone...makes no sense.
 

Vettester Chris

Super Moderator
Vince, are you saying it depletes the total serum, or are you seeing a reduction in your free/bio available testosterone? As Gene stated, there isn't really any correlation with DHEA and test serum, but wondering if maybe this is something effecting E2 -> to increased SHBG -> to reduced free test?? Just thinking out loud.
 

Vince

Super Moderator
Gene and Chris, yes dhea lowers my total T. When I took 10mg of dhea twice a day my total was under 400 and at 25mg twice a day my total T was under 300. Yes I do know that it raised my E2.
 

Gene Devine

Super Moderator
All I can think of is that the DHEA is converting to E2 via aromatization which would lower Test serum levels...but that's all I can think of.
 
I'm not on TRT at this time.

Tests Result Reference Interval
WBC 5.8 3.4-10.8
RBC 4.59 4.14-5.8
Hemoglobin 14.6 12.6-17.7
Hematocrit 42.6 37.5-51.0
MCV 93 79-97
MCH 31.8 26.6-33.0
MCHC 34.3 31.5-35.7
RDW 13.1 12.3-15.4
Platelets 197 150-379
Neutrophils 54
Lymphs 30
Monocytes 12
Eos 3
Basos 1
Neutrophils (absolute) 3.1 1.4-7.0
Lymphs (absolute) 1.8 0.7-3.1
Monocytes (absolute) .7 0.1-0.9
Eos (absolute) .2 0.0-0.4
Baso (absolute) 0.0 0.0-0.2
Immature Granulocytes 0
Immature Grans (abs) 0.0 0.0-0.1
Glucose, Serum 102 65-99
BUN 30 6-24
Creatinine, Serum 1.00 .76-1.27
eGFR 82 >59
eGFR 95 >59
BUN/Creatinine Ratio 30
Sodium, Serum 141 134-144
Potassium, Serum 5.3 3.5-5.2
Chloride, Serum 105 97-108
Carbon Dioxide, Total 24 18-29
Calcium, Serum 9.4 8.7-10.2
Protein, Total, Serum 6.3 6.0-8.5
Albumin, Serum 4.5 3.5-5.5
Globulin, Total 1.8 1.5-4.5
A/G Ratio 2.5 1.1-2.5
Bilirubin, Total .4 0.0-1.2
Alkaline Phosphatase, S 83 39-117
AST (SGOT) 27 0-40
ALT (SGPT) 37 0-44
Cholesterol, Total 182 100-199
Triglycerides 65 0-149
HDL Cholesterol 78 >39
VLDL Cholesterol Cal 13 5-40
LDL Cholesterol Calc 91 0-99
T. Chol/HDL Ratio 2.3 0.0-5.0
Testosterone, Serum 534 348-1197
Prostate Specific Ag, Serum .8 0.0-4.0
Estradiol <5.1 7.6-42.6
LH 13.2 1.7-8.6
TSH 1.160 .45-4.5
DHEA-Sulfate 87.5 48.9-344.2

Questions/Comments appreciated.

Vince


How do you feel?
 

Vince

Super Moderator
crossfitter, when my total was under 300 I felt terrible, lost my strength and got ED. I'm feeling much better now. I would hate to have to go through that again, but i am thinking about going on TRT. with only one testicle making testosterone and turning 60 in a week how much longer will that one tesicle make just enough testosterone?
 

Gene Devine

Super Moderator
crossfitter, when my total was under 300 I felt terrible, lost my strength and got ED. I'm feeling much better now. I would hate to have to go through that again, but i am thinking about going on TRT. with only one testicle making testosterone and turning 60 in a week how much longer will that one tesicle make just enough testosterone?


A: Probably not enough to feel good, have good sex drive, have energy, sleep great, have drive, think clear, stave of certain diseases, get strong, lose weight, gain muscle mass...you get the picture;)
 

NearlyNormal

New Member
crossfitter, when my total was under 300 I felt terrible, lost my strength and got ED. I'm feeling much better now. I would hate to have to go through that again, but i am thinking about going on TRT. with only one testicle making testosterone and turning 60 in a week how much longer will that one tesicle make just enough testosterone?

Try going through that at 39. :mad:
 

NearlyNormal

New Member
nearlynormal, going through that at 39 must really be terrible, fight the good fight.

It does. I explained my current dilemma in a separate thread I started yesterday. Can't afford the medication but need to find a good doctor in my area that may be able to help. Also need some kinda insurance that can help me with the meds. $300+ a month is way too much for me right now.
 

Vince

Super Moderator
CoastWatcher Hi, I'm using Nelson Vergel protocol injecting in my shoulders twice a week. I find it pretty easy to do, so far I'm not having any problems. One thing that I have noticed is my sex drive is through the roof, I do not remember how long it's been since sex has been this good. I know we're all different and i've only been on TRT for four and a half weeks, not very long. I can only hope that everything continues to improve.
 

CoastWatcher

Moderator
Great news, Vince. I experienced a surge of sexual energy, an astonishing surge, when I got something close to the right protocol. That level of libido didn't last as dopamine levels adjusted to the ongoing presence of higher testosterone in circulation. But, I'm happy to say, it has settled at a fine level. I hope you find the same results.
 

T-dog

Member
CoastWatcher Hi, I'm using Nelson Vergel protocol injecting in my shoulders twice a week. I find it pretty easy to do, so far I'm not having any problems. One thing that I have noticed is my sex drive is through the roof, I do not remember how long it's been since sex has been this good. I know we're all different and i've only been on TRT for four and a half weeks, not very long. I can only hope that everything continues to improve.

Vince, as long as you're answering questions...how long do you think it took for you start feeling the good sex again? I'm only a couple weeks in and am just curious. I've read the sticky about when stuff starts to happen, and may have missed another post by you, but just wondering about your take on when you started to feel things changing.
 

Vince

Super Moderator
Tdog Hi, I'll answer the best I can, sex started really fast for me and of course I do not know why, my energy, strength and mind are also improving but more gradually, I also started to feel improvement in my sleep, I no longer need melatonin to sleep. This is still very new to me and I know I have a lot of learning to do.
 
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