Gene's Nitric Oxide Stack

Can you explain the math of how 30% equals 150 mg? Seriously, I can't figure it out. Thanks.

This isn't too bad, but Vince idea is probably better. It has a couple other ingredients I'm not sure what they are.

http://www.allstarhealth.com/f/now-pycnogenol_60mg.htm

What a thread! Couldnt read it all but Gene the link for the Iicarin in the beginning is 300mg you split those in half?

I just stumbled on the forum doing NO searches and went out and got all the non prescrip stuff. 52yo, 10 years of weak unreliable erections and I am trying to find a very reliable solution. Cialis alone is not it. All Genes list were at the Vitamin Shoppe near me in Atl. To get the higher mg of arginine I got the powder, so 2 teaspoons is 4.6G. This is the worst tasting stuff I have ever tasted and it pure disgusting to take multiple times a day. I tried it with water, water with banana protein, POM, no matter what it is not fun. Any suggestions on how to get multiple grams of arg without this taste? I mostly combine it with the Vitamin Shoppe citruline.

Results 5 days in, twice daily (AM and bedtime) taking 4.6G Arg, 1.5G Citruline, 150mg Pycno, 250mg Horny Goat-Especially for Men(Vit Shoppe) plus my regular routine of 5mgDHEA, zinc, ginger, and others typical erection stuff:

Crazy vivid dreams, mostly sexual or crazy female scenarios and adventures all seem intense throughout the night. Wake with medium strength/decent boner some times during the night, but no boner upon finally waking up to get out of bed. It has been rare to have vivid dreams of first person sexual stuff for a long time.

I will be adding Cialis soon, but normal prescrips at my regular stores are over 30 bucks each, no way to cover that now. I heard mixed reviews on the sites mentioned by Gene, maybe give it a shot with a prepaid card and see how it works out. I heard mixed reviews on the RUI liquid CIA. Any suggestions on where to buy cialis would be nice.

I am glad to see there are real studies behind the arginine/citru/pycno combo. This is encouraging to try to solve my issues that Cialis alone has not been completely reliable over 10 years span. I am wondering if there is any experience with improved erection over time with this combo of herbs, or is it something that you either get immediate response from it and there is no cumulative effect over some period.

Thanks for the post and info.

tzod, welcome to Excelmale. I buy my Cialis from securetabs and I'm very happy with the results. https://www.excelmale.com/forum/showthread.php?1884-Where-to-Buy-Cheaper-Generic-Cialis

Newer research shows that Citruline works better than Arganine to raise N.O. and best of all, it has no basically no taste. Next time you mix it, try it without the Arganine and see what you think taste-wise.

Hi Gene - I've been collecting all the pieces of the N.O. stack, got a prescription for CIALIS and am all ready to go. Yesterday, reading this thread, I came across a posting by you citing the dangers of CIALIS and your comment that you would like to get off of CIALIS. I cannot locate your Dangers of CIALIS post. Before I start daily CIALIS, why do you want to get off of it? What are the dangers? Should I not start on low dose daily CIALIS? Thanks.

bobcat said:

Hi Gene - I've been collecting all the pieces of the N.O. stack, got a prescription for CIALIS and am all ready to go. Yesterday, reading this thread, I came across a posting by you citing the dangers of CIALIS and your comment that you would like to get off of CIALIS. I cannot locate your Dangers of CIALIS post. Before I start daily CIALIS, why do you want to get off of it? What are the dangers? Should I not start on low dose daily CIALIS? Thanks.

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You misunderstood what you read. First of all, it wasn't posted by Gene, but another member who was raising concerns about the visual and auditory issues that can arise in a very small set of men who take Cialis. Cialis is a prescription drug with various effects. Some of those, which we choose to call "side effects", may be negative. The vast majority of those who take this drug do so without an issue. You should be aware of potential issues and discuss them with your doctor, but in my own case, and I believe in Gene's, the benefits of Cialis, which are undeniable, far outweigh potential problems.

ERO said:

Newer research shows that Citruline works better than Arganine to raise N.O. and best of all, it has no basically no taste. Next time you mix it, try it without the Arganine and see what you think taste-wise.

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I find just the opposite in the two powders, I can easily tolerate 1tbsp of Arg, but when I add 1/2-1tbsp of Citrulline, I get a more objectionable taste profile. I mix that in 25oz shaker bottle though so there's a factor of being diluted there.

CoastWatcher said:

You misunderstood what you read. First of all, it wasn't posted by Gene, but another member who was raising concerns about the visual and auditory issues that can arise in a very small set of men who take Cialis. Cialis is a prescription drug with various effects. Some of those, which we choose to call "side effects", may be negative. The vast majority of those who take this drug do so without an issue. You should be aware of potential issues and discuss them with your doctor, but in my own case, and I believe in Gene's, the benefits of Cialis, which are undeniable, far outweigh potential problems.

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The Benefits of Long Term Cialis Use https://www.excelmale.com/forum/showthread.php?5517-Cialis-in-Liquid-or-Troches

I see some good reviews on Liquid Cia. I saw a post on another thread where Gene says he was going to try it as an option to India. I prefer US based if possible. Am I to assume that if you buy the 30ML bottle at 30mg/ml it means if you want to get 10mg of Cialis, you squirt 1/2 of a ml in your mouth?

I just received my nutrivitashop straight citrulline as opposed to the citrulline malate from Nutrakey. Tastes very nasty and made me feel weird. Maybe because I'm getting more citrulline. The Nutra key with malate is almost delicious. I think the malate gives it a citrus taste.

Hi I use L-Arginine Plus it contains L-Arginine and Citruline and a host of other vitamins and minerals.
I also use Superman Herbs Pine Pollen powder which is great as well. Look it up guys.

ThomasW said:

Hi I use L-Arginine Plus it contains L-Arginine and Citruline and a host of other vitamins and minerals.
I also use Superman Herbs Pine Pollen powder which is great as well. Look it up guys.

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Noticed the Arginine Plus had 5G of arginine. How many times a day do you take it? It's kind of low on Citrulline.

How does Arginine Plus taste? It says grape on the one I saw online, I wonder if this is more tolerable than the pure arginine I got at Vita Shoppe which is the worst tasting stuff.

ThomasW said:

Hi I use L-Arginine Plus it contains L-Arginine and Citruline and a host of other vitamins and minerals.
I also use Superman Herbs Pine Pollen powder which is great as well. Look it up guys.

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How much powder do you take?

Genes Daily Nitric Oxide Stack Vs What I take

10 mg of Tadalafil (Cialis) - I take 10 mg
9000 mg of L-Arginine - I take L-Arginine Plus - 5110mg L-argine per scoop - take 2 scoops gets minimum 10,120mg
4500 mg of L-Citrulline - I take L-Arginine Plus - 1010mg L-Citrulline per scoop -take 2 scoops gets minimum 2,020mg
150 mg of Pycnogenol - I take 120mg
450 mg of Icariin (Horny Goat Weed) - I take Icariin World Abs 3 capsules per day
Pine Pollen Superman Herbs I take 3 scoops (not in stack, don't take before bedtime, keeps me awake)

Taste is sweet (not like grape in my opinion, not nice but not bad either)
Pine Pollen is a test booster (tastes rotten but I have good results).



Morning
3000 mg of L-Arginine
1500 mg of L-Citrulline
50 mg of Pycnogenol
150 mg of Icariin (Horny Goat Weed)



Afternoon
5 mg of Tadalafil (Cialis)
3000 mg of L-Arginine
1500 mg of L-Citrulline
50 mg of Pycnogenol
150 mg of Icariin (Horny Goat Weed)
1 mg of Doxazosin (Alpha Blocker)

Sorry guys ignore the last part of my post (I copied and pasted Genes stack and forgot to delete).

Anyone: Can you replace the Doxazosin with Lotarsan in the stack? Thanks

Wolverine said:

Anyone: Can you replace the Doxazosin with Lotarsan in the stack? Thanks

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Assuming you mean Losartan. It is not an alpha blocker.