Vince
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The prices look a little high, have you tried ordering from that site? I wonder if it's the original secure tab.
Gene's Nitric Oxide Stack
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The prices look a little high, have you tried ordering from that site? I wonder if it's the original secure tab.
FeelingLost
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I have used this site twice with good results. I payed $0.93 each for 5mg (360tabs). Shipping takes about 2 weeks.
Vince are you saying you can get it cheaper?
FeelingLost
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To those guys using Gene's Stack with little to no changes to the dosing I have a couple questing if I may.
1) how long before you saw or felt changes when using this stack?
2) Are you a body builder or weight lifter?
3) Bedroom improvements? Weightroom improvements?
I ask because I have been on this stack for about 5 weeks. First week was half dose to be cautious.
I am not seeing or feeling much in the gym or bedroom and I have not altered the doses.
That said I do see a little improvement in both areas. But you have to really look. Libido is unchanged but erections are a bit stronger.
There are some major differences between me and Gene. I am 15 years older than him.
I am not a bodybuilder but I do go to a gym 4 days a week and I ride a mtn bike 14-20 miles 3 times a week year round.
I am 64 years old, height 5'9", weight 192#, body fat 13%
pre stack starting pict:
5 weeks in:
I plan to continue the stack for the next couple months. At 64 nothing happens overnight.
I just did a blood draw on Monday for my 2nd TRT protocol adjustment looking forward to that report in 2 weeks.
EDIT: OK I think I found my answer all the way back on post #41
1) how long before you saw or felt changes when using this stack?
2) Are you a body builder or weight lifter?
3) Bedroom improvements? Weightroom improvements?
I ask because I have been on this stack for about 5 weeks. First week was half dose to be cautious.
I am not seeing or feeling much in the gym or bedroom and I have not altered the doses.
That said I do see a little improvement in both areas. But you have to really look. Libido is unchanged but erections are a bit stronger.
There are some major differences between me and Gene. I am 15 years older than him.
I am not a bodybuilder but I do go to a gym 4 days a week and I ride a mtn bike 14-20 miles 3 times a week year round.
I am 64 years old, height 5'9", weight 192#, body fat 13%
pre stack starting pict:
5 weeks in:
I plan to continue the stack for the next couple months. At 64 nothing happens overnight.
I just did a blood draw on Monday for my 2nd TRT protocol adjustment looking forward to that report in 2 weeks.
EDIT: OK I think I found my answer all the way back on post #41
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Vince
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I would compare them with reliablerx. I buy the 20mg, with the discounts it's less than a dollar each.
I've been reading through this thread the past couple days, and have decided to give this a shot. I am 36, 205lbs 14-15% BF and go to the gym 5-6 days a week. My TRT protocol is .35mL of T with 500iu of HCG E3.5D. I also take 50mg of DHEA and 1750mg of metformin daily, along with multi-vitamins, krill oil, ZMA, etc.
My main concern with this stack is the Doxazosin. I have always had normal blood pressure, and wonder if this may cause me to feel weak/dizzy. My current BP reading averages 100/62. How necessary is the Doxazosin in this stack? I ordered some just in case, but wanted to get others opinions on this.
Also, I noticed that through reliablerx it would save me more money if I get 10mg tablets and cut them in half. For example, they sell 80 10mg tablets for $90 or 80 5mg tablets for $60. So, $0.75 a piece for 5mg, or $0.56 a piece for the 10mg cut in half. Does cutting it in half reduce the potency? Or are these pills generally too small to cut in half?
Thanks for the help!
My main concern with this stack is the Doxazosin. I have always had normal blood pressure, and wonder if this may cause me to feel weak/dizzy. My current BP reading averages 100/62. How necessary is the Doxazosin in this stack? I ordered some just in case, but wanted to get others opinions on this.
Also, I noticed that through reliablerx it would save me more money if I get 10mg tablets and cut them in half. For example, they sell 80 10mg tablets for $90 or 80 5mg tablets for $60. So, $0.75 a piece for 5mg, or $0.56 a piece for the 10mg cut in half. Does cutting it in half reduce the potency? Or are these pills generally too small to cut in half?
Thanks for the help!
Gene Devine
Super Moderator
You're body is just adjusting and is normal for some men.
My BP and resting heart rate is text book with this stack...it's amazing.
Gene Devine
Super Moderator
I get my liquid Cia from the RC sites. I like rui-products and BlueSky as both have been very consistent and cheap.
You can also get them overseas as well as the Doxizosin from https://www.reliablerxpharmacy.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=Tadalafil
FeelingLost
Banned
I think the question is: What if you have text book BP and resting heart rate already without an alpha blocker? Should you still keep an alpha blocker in your stack?
Gene Devine
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The answer is; of course. But the Dox is at a very very low dose here compared to the prescription strength of 4 to 6 mg daily where low BP is more prominent.
Thanks, currently using Maxim and there Tadalafil seems like the best out of the couple others I have tried.... I will keep Blue Sky in mind if I feel Maxims quality ever goes to down or I want to give another brand a shot to compare, I currently have 3 bottles so hopefully ordering in bulk doesn't effect the quality if it sits for a few months.....I used RUI many years ago for other stuff when I was on gear (which I don't use anymore) but last time I checked the prices were a little high and they were not taking credit cards.
Anyone have a good source for in stock Doxazsin, that ships fairly quick? My regular sources (reliablerx, etc) all seem to be out of stock, and I have all the other components for this stack. Any help would be appreciated!
FeelingLost
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http://secure-tabs-2016.com/catalog/Gastrointestinal/secure-tabs-2016-Doxazosin.htm
Takes CC'd and ships in 2 weeks. Buy enough and shipping is free.
Awesome..thanks! Do you do the AirMail or EMS shipping option?
FeelingLost
Banned
Which ever is most expensive to get it in 2 weeks however I have always bought enough stuff from them to get free shipping.
Vince Carter
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Gene is on point here, the DOx dosage of 1mg is well below what is typically prescribed for BP. Dox really acts as a smooth muscle relaxant = more blood flow.
FeelingLost
Banned
I did have issues with taking 1mg morning and 1mg evenings. Enough so that I only too 1 mg in the evening for 7 days.
Here's some snapshots of what I am monitoring. Sorry for you taptalk phone guys this pict is a biggy.
The 109 blood pressure was on day two of 2mg and the resting HR of 76 was day 3.
After that everything seemed to smooth out and I have been on the full NO stack for about 7 weeks.
At the gym I have noticed a bit more vascularity but I lose it pretty quick. I am still trying to build muscle while recovering from Sarcopenia
its not like I'm a 20 something and it hasn't helped that my protocol for the last 6 months had my TT between 300-350 and FT 11-12. ;-(
Here's some snapshots of what I am monitoring. Sorry for you taptalk phone guys this pict is a biggy.
The 109 blood pressure was on day two of 2mg and the resting HR of 76 was day 3.
After that everything seemed to smooth out and I have been on the full NO stack for about 7 weeks.
At the gym I have noticed a bit more vascularity but I lose it pretty quick. I am still trying to build muscle while recovering from Sarcopenia
its not like I'm a 20 something and it hasn't helped that my protocol for the last 6 months had my TT between 300-350 and FT 11-12. ;-(
First off, I have been weight-training for 30 years and have taken every supplement and tried every diet, except steroids/TRT. At 47, I am in the best shape of my life and have been on Gene's stack for almost 3 years straight! As long as you don't get side effects to the CIALIS there are so many reasons to take it. I just saw some solid research on pairing PDE5 inhibitors with EGCG and that prevents cancer. Its great for BPH/prostate issues also. Pairing it with the rest of the stack makes me feel great! My question is, has anyone taken curcumin with Cialis? I want to take it for the health benefits but see that its not recommended to take with any drug that relies on CYP3A4 which Cialis does. Any thoughts? Anyone taking Gene's stack 3+ years yet like me?
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