Trimix - miss. No impact, 0.2ml as per doctor 5 hours ago. Can I try again?

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mpadderson

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Hi fellas,

New user here, but I've been reading and reading for days now. I'm in a position that luckily the internet exists and I can be as upfront without showing my red cheeks as I ask these questions. I'll tell you a bit about myself: I'm a 35 year old, I've had horrible ED starting about 6 years ago and was too embarrassed to see a doctor about it. I was a hard drug addict for years (9 years clean now). I used to take those gas stations hardon pills like they were going out of style because I had issues getting it up. They helped along with some help from my girlfriend at the time stlmulating me. I went from 230 lbs to 430 over the course of 6 years. I also have lymphedema in my legs and some fluid in my stomach from it. I've been trying like crazy to lose weight, I've gone to every doctor from a GP to a vein specialist, to a urologist and a heart doc. I'm also a heavy smoker and I've been cutting back to try to do this naturally. Viagra and cialis do nothing at all for me. During foreplay I get aroused, not nearly anywhere like I used to be and just enough arousal to ejeculate.

Now that I've spilled my guts (in hopes the info would be helpful) - my new uro seems *fantastic* and actually cares. He's sending me for a bunch of tests from a-z and prescribed me trimix. The starting does of 0.2 with increments of 0.1 per injection if the prior one didn't work. He said if I missed the right spot, nothing dire could occur. The issue being my large gut prohibits me from reaching down with both hands at the same time so I had to one-hand it and for anyone with a weight issue, you know you don't have much to work with there in a flaccid state usually. It's been 6 hours now and I'm still lifeless down there.

I read that a smaller dosage when injected properly usually just dictates the length of time you're erect. With that considered, I was very nervous with the first shot but that has subsided now that I've tried it (albeit missed). Could I try a 0.1 injection on the other side of my penis (to stay away from the previous injection's general site)? I'm looking for a "yes you're fine" but only because I haven't had a hardon in 6 years now and I've been morbidly depressed about it. My girlfriend is amazing and is supportive throughout all of this. If it's not safe, I can accept that too and wait until tomorrow. I'm just really, really wanting to see myself in full function again even if it's for 10 minutes.

Thank you to anyone who has read this entire long-winded post!

MP
 
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Nelson Vergel

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Take a pic of the vial label and post it here or tell me what the ingredients and amounts are.

Also, did you add the water into the product yourself or not? If so, how much?

Where is the product from?
 

mpadderson

New Member
Take a pic of the vial label and post it here or tell me what the ingredients and amounts are.

Also, did you add the water into the product yourself or not? If so, how much?

Where is the product from?

Hey Nelson,

Thanks a lot for responding. Papaverine mg/ml: 30, Phentolamine mg/ml: 1, Alprostadil mcg/ml: 20 I tried 0.1 last night in a different spot, this time I felt the tiny pinch but nothing came of it. I'm guessing if that was the proper spot it wasn't enough. Am I correct in thinking that if you were to face your palm up, open your hand and place it under your penis and then close your pointer and thumb on the sides, it's that muscle/kinda springy (if you squeeze) tube like area that you need to inject in? I didn't add anything to this at all. I picked it up from the compounding pharmacy my uro recommended and that was about it. I also just received an auto-injector today, figuring maybe if I used my left hand (easier to reach down with) and the length of the injector device would allow for a more accurate injection while holding with my left hand.
 

CoastWatcher

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We're glad you joined EM and appreciate the candid introductory post. You have been through a lot, and we wish you the best as you work to bring your health into line. If you wish to review and discuss your lab results, or anything else, please open the discussion.

All the best.
 

mpadderson

New Member
This thread contains diagrams and video instruction for Trimix in the various threads.
[Link removed because my post count is too low to quote links/post links]

Thanks a lot. I read everywhere not to "stretch" the penis out and I'm noticing also that these diagrams seem to be closer to the base on the side. Me with my current weight, I'd have no choice if I wanted to inject that close to the base than to pull out a bit. Is that still safe? I've solved the whole "I can't reach issue" with the autoject2 (thankfully!) because it's long enough and the trigger is right at the top so I'm going to try again tonight. I'm just not sure if I should start with 0.3ml this time (as the doctor said increase by 0.1 each time if the previous didn't work), but considering in all likeliness I probably missed the right spot, I figured 0.2 would be safe to try again. Is this stuff really that potent? I mean, I haven't had an erection in ~6 years. It feels so hopeless it's almost hard to keep trying but I know it's my own error that's preventing any reaction at all. You guys are great - thanks a lot. It's great to have some place like this to come to.
 

mpadderson

New Member
Welp, nevermind that. Thanks to my useless gut, I can't even get in there with the autoject. Hopeless. Thanks for the info guys. Take care, I'm just done.
 

mpadderson

New Member
Can your partner inject you? Not a great turn-on, I get that, but...

She can but she's out of state. I'm going to visit her as a surprise, and that's why I've been trying to do this to see if it actually works beforehand so I'd know how much to inject. 0.2ml seems a lot (20 units on a 100-u pin) but I just watched a guy inject nearly 0.4 and I was blown away. I suppose the amount of trimix injected in the spot will spread from the massaging and a temporary focus of fluid in one spot as soon as injected is normal right? I at one point was prescribed HGH and injected into my stomach and I remember not injecting right in the beginning and one time made a huge bubble in my stomach that took a bit to go away. I suppose i associate that with the injection and I'm a bit nervous. Is it ok to inject once there's a bit of chub? should I inject more towards the base for better results? sorry for the knee-jerk reaction, it's just been years and I was hoping this was a magic bullet - so not being able to test it immediately is just frustrating.
 

DaveK22

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Something is seriously wrong with your Trimix. I use Trimix (same as Empower formula) and .03 ml gives me 2 hr erection. .05 ml gives me 4 hr.

I know everyone is different but if I did .2 ml I'd be in the ER for sure
 

Nelson Vergel

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Hey Nelson,

Thanks a lot for responding. Papaverine mg/ml: 30, Phentolamine mg/ml: 1, Alprostadil mcg/ml: 20 I tried 0.1 last night in a different spot, this time I felt the tiny pinch but nothing came of it. I'm guessing if that was the proper spot it wasn't enough. Am I correct in thinking that if you were to face your palm up, open your hand and place it under your penis and then close your pointer and thumb on the sides, it's that muscle/kinda springy (if you squeeze) tube like area that you need to inject in? I didn't add anything to this at all. I picked it up from the compounding pharmacy my uro recommended and that was about it. I also just received an auto-injector today, figuring maybe if I used my left hand (easier to reach down with) and the length of the injector device would allow for a more accurate injection while holding with my left hand.

Have you watched this video?

https://www.excelmale.com/content.php?168-Video-How-to-Inject-Trimix

Did your urologist not show you how to do it and actually have you inject at his/her office?
 

mpadderson

New Member
I've watched it and I visited my girlfriend last week - got a bit of a chub from about 0.2 that's about it. I go to the doctor's the 26th though.
 

mpadderson

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Now that i re-watch it, my needle isn't 1/2", then again i'm not huge down there either until aroused so maybe the 6mm syringe they gave me is ok?
 

TMI

New Member
Bariatric surgery, while not for everyone, has its place. If you can't see to inject TRIMIX, perhaps that surgery is right for you. Discuss this with your doctor, and get a second opinion, or two. You deserve better care.
 

TMI

New Member
And, you say you are a heavy smoker trying to cut back. Your will never get erections when you are flooding your body with nicotine. Quit that first. Then work on the weight. Then the erections, with or without Trimix (etc.) might come.
 

mpadderson

New Member
And, you say you are a heavy smoker trying to cut back. Your will never get erections when you are flooding your body with nicotine. Quit that first. Then work on the weight. Then the erections, with or without Trimix (etc.) might come.

You're absolutely right. My vape with 0mg of nicotine gets here Tuesday. I have been low-carb for a few weeks now and my lymphedema has significantly shrunken in my legs. I just tried 0.2, it's been a week since the last attempt and within about 3 minutes after rubbing the area I got a chub like I haven't had in forever. It felt like a flood. Only lasted about 10 minutes but it's more than I had before. I wonder if it's just the mixture that might need some increase in one of the doses. I'll discuss it with my uro for sure.
 

mpadderson

New Member
Bariatric surgery, while not for everyone, has its place. If you can't see to inject TRIMIX, perhaps that surgery is right for you. Discuss this with your doctor, and get a second opinion, or two. You deserve better care.

After paying the deductible requirement ($7200), aetna denied my bariatric claim even after I went through all pre-op tests and passed. The reason: "weight gain" during pre-op. My doctor submitted an appeal with a 2-page letter from my vein specialist explaining that the lymphedema was causing an incredible amount of dense fluid to build up and it's not "weight gain" :(
 

TMI

New Member
Vapes aren't a lot safer (they burn glyerin/glycols/diacetyls, etc.) and why would you be using one if you're going to be going 0 mg nicotine? I don't understand. Low carb can work wonders for some, so get some support if it's working for you. That "chub" is your penis telling you that it is still alive, and still has potential. But you have to do your part to get your health sorted out. Injections alone are not going to cure you. You can do it, and I wish you the best!
 

TMI

New Member
The Aetna claim can be appealed, but you might have to spend out of pocket money for a second opinion. Or get your vascular surgeon's report regarding the fluid weight. For now (the next year) do what you can do. You are in control and can do this. Low carb, if not contraindicated, can help some lose a lot of weight. Daily exercise, if only a mile-long walk, can help with the lymphedema, improve your mood, and improve your health overall. Trimix will become more effective as you take control of your health. You deserve to be the best you can be. Best wishes.
 

mpadderson

New Member
I saw my uro and he educated me a bit and injected me in the office. He said the following:

1. Injecting once per 24 hours is fine
2. The 31 gauge needle I was using was too short to penetrate the proper area
3. Increase by 0.1 until I find a dose that works

In the office, I did get a bit "chubbed up" and that lasted for about 2 hours or more, but nowhere near penetration-ready or even arousal really. He injected me with a 25 gauge there, using an 18 gauge to draw from the vial - however he prescribed me 18g and 22g for home. Isn't 22g a bit too large? Perhaps it was a typeo on the prescription? I did definitely feel a bit of discomfort for some hours after the injection near the point of entry.
 
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