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What are the side effects of high testosterone?
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<blockquote data-quote="tareload" data-source="post: 212103"><p>Yes.</p><p>Yes.</p><p>Almost 4 years on TRT. Typically 80-120 mg/week of TC (on and off hCG). Played with 1x and 2x per week injections.</p><p></p><p>Total T between 1500 and 1200 ng/dl (peak) and 500-800 ng/dl (trough). I can get into fT/SHBG and all that if you are interested.</p><p></p><p>Two short stints of oxandrolone (4 weeks at 25-50 mg/day and another 6 weeks at 15 mg/day). Lipids/particle counts were crushed so I stopped.</p><p></p><p>Two ~19 week trials of Nandrolone Decanoate (80-120 mg/week). Extreme effect on mood, libido, ED, depression.</p><p></p><p>Massive effect on lean body mass. I can carry an additional 20-25 lb at same low bodyfat level on TRT + other AAS (not alway a good thing, especially on the heart). Combine with nutty weight training and lots of Tabata/HIIT and you may be asking for trouble (especially as you reach middle age). </p><p></p><p>Don't know what caused my current issue but plan is to reduce TRT dosage down to 50-70 mg/week and then eventually transition to Natesto/Equivalent or hCG then some type of PCT and see if I can get close to original endogenous TT level of 380-400 ng/dl. 6-12 months at significantly lower TT/fT levels should give me some indication if remodeling is possible and if the issue is athlete's heart or pathologic hypertrophy. I'll keep the exercise / pressure loading the same (although of course it won't be as the poundages will come down on the weights).</p><p></p><p>I think that's a poorly discussed synergy between PED/AAS/TRT and weight training for those that are predisposed to these types of heart issues. More lean body mass, more pressure loading with more weight lifted, more anabolic potential on the heart. I haven't done a PLS model to try and decouple it all. </p><p></p><p>Want to do TRT/TOT (after having done everything else correct...diet, training, etc) and you are on the borderline between clinical needed TRT and lifestyle TOT? Be careful what you wish for. I almost had myself deluded I could very wisely use anabolic therapies and there was a free lunch. The current data I have in hand seems to indicate there probably wasn't a free lunch and the bill has come due. </p><p></p><p>Thanks for taking a look and the thoughtful questions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tareload, post: 212103"] Yes. Yes. Almost 4 years on TRT. Typically 80-120 mg/week of TC (on and off hCG). Played with 1x and 2x per week injections. Total T between 1500 and 1200 ng/dl (peak) and 500-800 ng/dl (trough). I can get into fT/SHBG and all that if you are interested. Two short stints of oxandrolone (4 weeks at 25-50 mg/day and another 6 weeks at 15 mg/day). Lipids/particle counts were crushed so I stopped. Two ~19 week trials of Nandrolone Decanoate (80-120 mg/week). Extreme effect on mood, libido, ED, depression. Massive effect on lean body mass. I can carry an additional 20-25 lb at same low bodyfat level on TRT + other AAS (not alway a good thing, especially on the heart). Combine with nutty weight training and lots of Tabata/HIIT and you may be asking for trouble (especially as you reach middle age). Don't know what caused my current issue but plan is to reduce TRT dosage down to 50-70 mg/week and then eventually transition to Natesto/Equivalent or hCG then some type of PCT and see if I can get close to original endogenous TT level of 380-400 ng/dl. 6-12 months at significantly lower TT/fT levels should give me some indication if remodeling is possible and if the issue is athlete's heart or pathologic hypertrophy. I'll keep the exercise / pressure loading the same (although of course it won't be as the poundages will come down on the weights). I think that's a poorly discussed synergy between PED/AAS/TRT and weight training for those that are predisposed to these types of heart issues. More lean body mass, more pressure loading with more weight lifted, more anabolic potential on the heart. I haven't done a PLS model to try and decouple it all. Want to do TRT/TOT (after having done everything else correct...diet, training, etc) and you are on the borderline between clinical needed TRT and lifestyle TOT? Be careful what you wish for. I almost had myself deluded I could very wisely use anabolic therapies and there was a free lunch. The current data I have in hand seems to indicate there probably wasn't a free lunch and the bill has come due. Thanks for taking a look and the thoughtful questions. [/QUOTE]
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