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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Testosterone Basics & Questions
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<blockquote data-quote="Dr Justin Saya MD" data-source="post: 30936" data-attributes="member: 12687"><p>The pharmacy only makes the DHEA combo with cypionate currently. They could theoretically make it with propionate, however with all of the current heightened regulations on compounding they would need to do additional studies on "beyond use date" and other variables prior to dispensing. Also, although with regards to the timing of release of testosterone from the propionate ester it lends itself better to daily injections, also keep in mind the propionate ester tends to cause much more discomfort/irritation (ESPECIALLY when injected SubQ). More discomfort per injection + daily injections = much more cumulative discomfort. The discomfort/irritation caused by various esters tends to correlate with the length of the carbon chain of the various esters, with SHORTER carbon chains generally causing more irritation. Cypionate = 8 carbons (relatively mild irritation), Enanthate = 7 carbons, Propionate = 3 carbons, Bee venom = 1 carbon. I am working with the pharmacy to compound lyophilized DHEA which may be injected daily with HCG for folks that can keep up with that routine (not everyone can). We will see if the pharmacists can pull it off, I believe they can (but, again, if they can there will be a delay in availability due to the testing requirements for new compounds).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dr Justin Saya MD, post: 30936, member: 12687"] The pharmacy only makes the DHEA combo with cypionate currently. They could theoretically make it with propionate, however with all of the current heightened regulations on compounding they would need to do additional studies on "beyond use date" and other variables prior to dispensing. Also, although with regards to the timing of release of testosterone from the propionate ester it lends itself better to daily injections, also keep in mind the propionate ester tends to cause much more discomfort/irritation (ESPECIALLY when injected SubQ). More discomfort per injection + daily injections = much more cumulative discomfort. The discomfort/irritation caused by various esters tends to correlate with the length of the carbon chain of the various esters, with SHORTER carbon chains generally causing more irritation. Cypionate = 8 carbons (relatively mild irritation), Enanthate = 7 carbons, Propionate = 3 carbons, Bee venom = 1 carbon. I am working with the pharmacy to compound lyophilized DHEA which may be injected daily with HCG for folks that can keep up with that routine (not everyone can). We will see if the pharmacists can pull it off, I believe they can (but, again, if they can there will be a delay in availability due to the testing requirements for new compounds). [/QUOTE]
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