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Trial of trt plus enclomiphene
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<blockquote data-quote="TLawyer" data-source="post: 214990" data-attributes="member: 40115"><p>The FDA didn't approve Enclomiphene in the form of Androxal, but you can get it from the compounding pharmacies. i get it from Empower through Defy. Although it wasn't approved, there are studies that support its ability to improve numbers. I think some of those studies also address an improvement in subjective symptoms as well, although as I understand it a lack of subjective improvement is probably why it didn't get approved.</p><p></p><p>I have had I think an overall good experience with Enclomiphene. I started it after a 6 month run on TRT, and I had stopped TRT and gone cold turkey for about 6-8 weeks. I was still below baseline after that time (I think total T was in the 200's), so I started Enclomiphene and Ibutamoren (for some lingering aches I had). I had a bit of a honeymoon period on energy for a few months. My numbers are pretty good on it (see some of my previous posts), for me it has been trying to find the right dosage and frequency to play with my E2 and Free T levels. It does seem to increase my SHBG level, which hurts my Free T benefits. I do feel subjectively better on it than not on it, but I don't feel like Superman on it because it still puts me at numbers on the lower side of normal (but better than where I was). With that said, there are a million factors that could put someone in a good mood, have a good libido, etc., so I think it's tough to either credit or blame anything I take, but I do think there has been a benefit with Enclomiphene.</p><p></p><p>My goal with the nasal gel is to see if I can get my numbers higher than on Enclomiphene but still maintain my natural production and better realize some of the benefits of treatment, like a higher libido.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TLawyer, post: 214990, member: 40115"] The FDA didn't approve Enclomiphene in the form of Androxal, but you can get it from the compounding pharmacies. i get it from Empower through Defy. Although it wasn't approved, there are studies that support its ability to improve numbers. I think some of those studies also address an improvement in subjective symptoms as well, although as I understand it a lack of subjective improvement is probably why it didn't get approved. I have had I think an overall good experience with Enclomiphene. I started it after a 6 month run on TRT, and I had stopped TRT and gone cold turkey for about 6-8 weeks. I was still below baseline after that time (I think total T was in the 200's), so I started Enclomiphene and Ibutamoren (for some lingering aches I had). I had a bit of a honeymoon period on energy for a few months. My numbers are pretty good on it (see some of my previous posts), for me it has been trying to find the right dosage and frequency to play with my E2 and Free T levels. It does seem to increase my SHBG level, which hurts my Free T benefits. I do feel subjectively better on it than not on it, but I don't feel like Superman on it because it still puts me at numbers on the lower side of normal (but better than where I was). With that said, there are a million factors that could put someone in a good mood, have a good libido, etc., so I think it's tough to either credit or blame anything I take, but I do think there has been a benefit with Enclomiphene. My goal with the nasal gel is to see if I can get my numbers higher than on Enclomiphene but still maintain my natural production and better realize some of the benefits of treatment, like a higher libido. [/QUOTE]
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